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  • spantol
    Turgid Member
    • Sep 2002
    • 1024

    #16
    If I'm reading this correctly, it seems that the SP patents were re-assigned to PNC Bank in February 2008:



    Presumably, they were used as collateral for a loan. If they've defaulted, well, that sure would be shame.

    Loaded 2004 BKO For Sale

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    • Beemer
      I could tell you but then.

      • Oct 2003
      • 3250

      #17
      Nice find.


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      • Drix
        New Hampshire Indoor PB
        • Jul 2008
        • 552

        #18
        If they've closed their doors for the month that alludes to Chapter 7 bankrupcy which would mean they're selling off assets to pay debtors... I wonder if that means they will be forced to sell off their patents to the highest bidder....

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        • 50 cal
          The evil voices win today
          • Nov 2000
          • 960

          #19
          Someone cue up the Nelson "HaHa" pic

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          • mostpeople
            Registered User
            • Mar 2007
            • 1680

            #20
            All patents transferred to PNC National Bank



            edit* oops already posted haha

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            • maniacmechanic
              PrestonCoPaintball
              • Aug 2006
              • 3453

              #21
              Originally posted by spantol
              If I'm reading this correctly, it seems that the SP patents were re-assigned to PNC Bank in February 2008:



              Presumably, they were used as collateral for a loan. If they've defaulted, well, that sure would be shame.
              So should we all start writing the bank & tell them the patents are worthless , or that they are worth multi millions

              if the bank held them for collateral , if sp paid off the loan wouldn't they have to reassign the patents to sp

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              • going_home
                Hebrews 13:8

                • Dec 2004
                • 8344

                #22
                You guys may be getting your panties bunched up for nothing.
                Apparently buying patents is what this bank does.
                The PNC Bank owns 7 pages of patents.



                Page 4 Assignment: 197 , Recorded: 03/11/2005 , NATIONAL PAINTBALL SUPPLY, INC.

                Page 4 Assignment: 198 , Recorded: 06/15/2007 , NATIONAL PAINTBALL SUPPLY, INC.

                Page 6 Assignment: 270 & 271 , Recorded: 05/27/2008 , SMART PARTS, INC.


                Some other interesting names in there too.
                Activision is in there a couple times,
                Crocs Inc (those hideous slippers),
                and Ritz Camera to name a few.

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                • AGD
                  The man from AGD

                  • Oct 2000
                  • 5916

                  #23
                  I think its more likely all those companies defaulted on loans. Banks are not stupid as you can see. When they loan you money you sign away every asset you own. Believe me I know...

                  I am dieing to know if SP will make a comeback under new (or old) owners.

                  AGD
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                  • Tao
                    Registered User
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 834

                    #24
                    Originally posted by spantol
                    If I'm reading this correctly, it seems that the SP patents were re-assigned to PNC Bank in February 2008:



                    Presumably, they were used as collateral for a loan. If they've defaulted, well, that sure would be shame.
                    Lol they lost their self squeegeeing barrel patent too :rofl:

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                    • Skeeter
                      PBC Owner
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 121

                      #25
                      Originally posted by maniacmechanic
                      So should we all start writing the bank & tell them the patents are worthless , or that they are worth multi millions
                      IIRC, several should expire within 3-4 years. I wonder how someone would contact the bank about purchasing a specific patent? How would you "value" them? Tom? Lets hold an AGD fund-raiser & get the IP moved over to Tom's hands!!!! Poetic justice!

                      Originally posted by maniacmechanic
                      if the bank held them for collateral , if sp paid off the loan wouldn't they have to reassign the patents to sp
                      Lets hope that they are so far in the hole, that they will never see these patents again. It sounds like they are gonners, with no hope of return. It would be hard to court the venture capitalist crowd, with their track record. I don't understand Richmond's logic. Why pump huge $$ into a failed venture with a horible starting reputation, for a dubious product, in an obvious effort to wiggle around a "non-compete" agreement? If you have that much $$, there are much easier ways to multiply it. Since the Gardner's have tried to screw the industry for so many years, why would anyone get in bed with them???

                      I see .50 cal treading water for a few years. Not in the sport of PB, but as a law enforcement training tool. This sport is too established to change formats. The tournament industry is withering on the vine (sorry, Camile). Rec Ball & Scenario Ball will stay .68, and keep the sport alive! After a few years of minimal profits (at best), .50 cal will just fade away. THEN we can all get together and TP the Gardner brothers houses!!!!!
                      Time is what keeps things from happening all at once

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                      • Reiner
                        Registered User
                        • Apr 2009
                        • 39

                        #26
                        Well if the bank took them as collateral, let's hope they did that in jest and weren't actually thinking they were worth anything and could make money off them. That could be bad if the directors of a bank were in charge of setting up and collecting royalties.

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                        • BigEvil
                          www.BigEvilOnline.com

                          • Feb 2005
                          • 9333

                          #27
                          Here's an interesting tid-bit. I ran into a friend of mine at a big game this weekend. This guy is sponsored by SP. He was shooting an ego. When I asked him about it, he laughed and said they are done.

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                          • SSP REAPER
                            FKC Founding Member

                            • Aug 2008
                            • 1831

                            #28
                            I told you all last month and fishmishin confirmed it as well. It appears people still think they will make a return. I for one hope they flop and never come back!

                            We need a market that is not saturated (more than it presently is) with cheap piece of crap markers made in China and Taiwan that don't even work half the time...

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                            • robo1
                              CoCaptain, L.C.P.H.
                              • Jun 2009
                              • 93

                              #29
                              Its about time. Is that the patent for the freak barrel too?

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                              • leloup
                                Mag Addicted
                                • Feb 2009
                                • 634

                                #30
                                Originally posted by afortuna
                                Not quite correct, but pretty close.

                                Chapter 13 is for individuals only. Corporations are not allowed to file Chapter 13's. This is the first level repayment plan for individuals.
                                True, I was giving just a simplified version. Also, partnerships cannot file 13. Is smartparts a partnership (between the two bros right)?

                                EDIT: I think that the patents in the hands of a bank might be even worse, as their interest would be money, and not the sport as a whole. I wonder if they know just how important those patents could be?
                                Last edited by leloup; 01-12-2010, 02:13 PM.

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