The Eigenbarrel

[wetwrks]

Thats weird I would never buy a barrel that small, out here in UT the paint ranges between 687 and 691, with Marbalizer being right around 689. I wonder why the paint is different sizes in different areas

Temperature, Humidity, Altitude, Manufacturer....all can play a part.

[Frizzle Fry]

Marbalizer being right around 689

Weird, Marbs in Massachusetts are .684 fairly consistently, and at D-Day last year I saw .683 consistently.

[CatoRockwell]

Weird, Marbs in Massachusetts are .684 fairly consistently, and at D-Day last year I saw .683 consistently.

D-Day last year was the JT Fluid line, I would know, it was the hands down worst event paint I have ever used. It was also fairly large I couldn't use it in my qloader.

[Frizzle Fry]

D-Day last year was the JT Fluid line, I would know, it was the hands down worst event paint I have ever used. It was also fairly large I couldn't use it in my qloader.

I shot Marbs bought from PB Fury and they were .683 fairly consistently. About 2 years ago or so I was using a .691 Scepter for Marbs regularly and now it practically drops through. I will say that Fluid was just terrible... It doesn't feed in my Pinokio; I can literally get cheapo Rufus Dawgballs (not actually sure that's the name) to feed more regularly than that crap.

I'd much rather see Valken (worth trying for lvl7 users) for similar cost or even Stinger. I know it has to be overpriced but at least it could be good cheap crap.

[Tunaman]

they should have either made this barrel a two piece( second peice with a large bore and lots of porting) or a 1 piece unported barrel.

once the paintball hits the ported part of the barrel, pressure is no longer pushing the paintball. the .678 ID will cause alot of friction and may slightly hurt the potentially great effieciency you get from underboring.

In my opinion the ideal barrrel with be a 10 inch 1 piece unported barrel with a .680ish ID.

Correct. TK proved this years ago. But you guys can believe all the hype you like.

[Tao]

Ummmm....Arent all barrels continuous ID until two piece barrels came along?

[Swamp Thing]

Above

Palmers are not they are eliptical with wider portion in middle and narrow on the ends

Swamp

[boarder2k7]

That barrel looks good to me man, I like massive porting at the end because I like my gun to be quiet, even if that sheds a bit of efficiency.

I'd get one if I had money and an AC thread adaptor!

-B

[going_home]

Wow.
.678 huh ?
I'd like to try one but it seems to be way too small for the paint around here.
Seems like if you are way under boring a barrel (paint runs about .687 around here)
that may work with a pump, one shot at a time.
Seems like it would slow the ball down in the barrel and cause barrel breaks under rapid fire.

I had some nice fresh Marbs and had to change from a .685 to a .687 because of barrel breaks here last year.
Now if I used $35.00 a box paint maybe an under bored barrel wouldnt cause broken paint.
just saying.

[splat15k]

At $39, it's worth testing out to know the performance for certain.

[cockerpunk]

i have no idea where poeple are finding .685+ paint.

i often have rollouts out of my .679 python. forget underboring, just to prevent a rollout you need a barrel like this around here. underboring a huge bonus when you get the chance to do it though.

[Dirge]

Northeast. Can't say I have seen paint that small. Usually use a .689 to .693 myself.

[going_home]

i have no idea where poeple are finding .685+ paint.

i often have rollouts out of my .679 python. forget underboring, just to prevent a rollout you need a barrel like this around here. underboring a huge bonus when you get the chance to do it though.

Florida.

[CatoRockwell]

If you come out to the Rockies you will find that virtually all paint is between 687 & 693

[cockerpunk]

Correct. TK proved this years ago. But you guys can believe all the hype you like.

you can easily do the same experiment at home or at the chrono station.

take the front off your 2 piece barrel, fire a few shots, then stick the front back on and take a few more shots. they will be higher in velocity.

means that this "the mm the ball hits a port the barrel is over" business is the hype. the expanding gas does continue to push the ball even after it hits both the massive overbore of a barrel front, and the porting.