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  • leloup
    Mag Addicted
    • Feb 2009
    • 634

    #16
    Problem is that feed back doesn't always mean anything. Example: I just purchased a warp feed (on MCB) that had "a small crack in the shell that does not effect performance." When I got it, the "crack" was actually chipped off (some one had tightened it too much and it broke from the nut up). It even had the glue residue of who ever tried to fix it. He would not respond to pm's and emails, so I filed a claim through paypal to get his attention. The seller called me a liar. He said he had "five witnesses" that could attest that the warp was in perfect working condition. He finally refunded me $25, but would not take the warp back for a full refund. Tired of dealing with it, I accepted it. Now the kicker: He said that if I posted what happened in his feedback, he would ruin my feedback. What can I do? Any one know a mod on MCB?

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    • BenoitOWN
      Registered User
      • Oct 2005
      • 556

      #17
      Originally posted by leloup
      Problem is that feed back doesn't always mean anything. Example: I just purchased a warp feed (on MCB) that had "a small crack in the shell that does not effect performance." When I got it, the "crack" was actually chipped off (some one had tightened it too much and it broke from the nut up). It even had the glue residue of who ever tried to fix it. He would not respond to pm's and emails, so I filed a claim through paypal to get his attention. The seller called me a liar. He said he had "five witnesses" that could attest that the warp was in perfect working condition. He finally refunded me $25, but would not take the warp back for a full refund. Tired of dealing with it, I accepted it. Now the kicker: He said that if I posted what happened in his feedback, he would ruin my feedback. What can I do? Any one know a mod on MCB?
      If that was in Pm well shows Painthappy ... hes the main boss(and owner) ...


      jrod: I doesnt own a camera ... I borrow one when I can but for now and untill around june I would not never spend for one dedicated for paintball. Of course I do plan to get one for a trip im planning but it not because it cost lower money than everyone need a camera.

      And while I can supply picture I never needed to take a video as my air tank are always empty so it quite pointless.

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      • SCpoloRicker
        HA HA I'm custom!!1
        • Jan 2004
        • 4375

        #18
        Hai guize!

        Anyone want to buy a LNIB DevilMag?
        God....I guess I was probably returning videotapes.

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        • Lohman446
          Useful posts: 7
          • Jun 2003
          • 9315

          #19
          Originally posted by SCpoloRicker
          Hai guize!

          Anyone want to buy a LNIB DevilMag?
          LOL - sure, let me send you $1500 or so. You'll ship that whenever right?
          "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess

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          • leloup
            Mag Addicted
            • Feb 2009
            • 634

            #20
            Originally posted by Lohman446
            LOL - sure, let me send you $1500 or so. You'll ship that whenever right?
            Just make sure it is cash, he doesn't take paypal.

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            • Smokeage
              Registered User
              • Aug 2009
              • 69

              #21
              Originally posted by FutureMagOwner
              Just so you know paypal won't do anything because they don't get involved with the condition something arrives in (especially a sale like this) only if the person doesn't ship.
              Wrong. Ive dealt with paypal claims a few times and I can assure you that if something does not arrive in "described condition" you (and by extension paypal) can do something about it. Selling something that is not as described is just as bad as not sending it out at all.

              File the claim. Put all of the messages sent both way in the report as well as pics of what you got.


              And just in case im wrong.....anybody want to buy my Shocker? I swear it works.

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              • FutureMagOwner
                Registered User
                • Dec 2001
                • 3354

                #22
                I don't know from personal experience, I'm not a fan of paypal and avoid it at all costs. But that is what I've seen from a few people that have posted about paypal disputes. I guess it depends on the situation, if you have the person describe the thing down to every oring, and that turns out to be false then they may rule that it product described was not what was shipped, but if it is sold as is and not a lot of questions were asked then you are probably up **** creek.

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                • maniacmechanic
                  PrestonCoPaintball
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 3453

                  #23
                  I've never been duped here , Before I buy I want pics of all 4 sides , top , bottom , If it is High dollar part or marker , you should list every ding & scratch on it ( unless it is excessively cheep , like 10 cents on the dollar )
                  There are a bunch of guys on here I love dealing with because you know exactly what your getting
                  My problem lately has been packing , some folks have fogotten how to wrap something to where it won't slide to & fro in the box & tear the end out of it , I pack stuff like i'm shipping eggs

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                  • Watcher
                    aka CavDragoneb12
                    • Apr 2008
                    • 867

                    #24
                    Been there before. I bought a Lapco GreyGhost on Ebay that was advertised "This is not a pre-order run; buy today, play tomorow!" It also had a satisfaction guarrenty of a full refund.

                    I asked him a question, buyer responded. It was pictured on a pegboard, so I wanted to be sure it was BNIB. He says they removed it and displayed it to take the picture, that is all.
                    So I bought it. Waited... waited... nothing.
                    Sent a message, nothing, sent a message, nothing.
                    Opened a dispute. Got a message. It roughly read "We don't currently have this item, we are waiting for it to be shipped to our warehouse where we can then ship it to you. As a consolation, we can offer you a free lazer engrave job." It also mentioned that they contacted me outside of Ebay, at my email address. That was a lie.

                    I said that I appreciate the offer, but your ad said that you had these in stock. I can wait a week or two, I can't wait a month. I also expressed my concern at the lack of communication.
                    No response...
                    Sent another message saying thanks but no thanks on the engrave, I just want the Ghost.
                    No response...

                    By now it had been just over a month.
                    I then got sick of it, and said bluntly that I ran out of patience, and that if you were willing to add to the package then you'd be willing to subtract. I told him I expected the cost of the lazer job to be refunded to me, or for him to negotiate a further deal.
                    No response...
                    So I sent a final message saying that I was not satisfied, and by his ad he guaranteed a refund. I wanted that refund. I'd been more than patient, I'd been more than polite until I was ignored, and that I don't appreciate the way he is treating a paying customer. I gave him money in exchange for goods, the least he could do is type a message to me.

                    And I opened a claim.
                    No response...
                    2 weeks later I was awarded a refund. Paypal claimed he never responded to their messages.

                    And he had a 99% positive rating


                    Then what happens? I find one on a forum. Send a message, a day later I get a response. A week later I get a Ghost

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                    • Frizzle Fry
                      AO Micromag Guy
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 3280

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Watcher
                      And he had a 99% positive rating
                      That feedback thing has turned into racket with the newest update. It's designed to make you keep buying/selling.

                      I've got 175+ "good" feedbacks and only 1 bad (from an idiot, too), but currently I've only got a 97% feedback rating. The reason is, I've only sold and bought 50-some-odd items in the last year and they take the average of the last 12 months. So just one idiot ruins my feedback score because I haven't been a good enough consumer, but some company like I&I Sports can have a track record of 85% positive but because they sell in high volume and occasionally manage a 1 or 2 month streak of "good" transactions their feedback shows up as 98%.

                      Use toolhaus.org before buying, it's the only REAL feedback system.

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                      • busby
                        Registered User
                        • Jan 2008
                        • 122

                        #26
                        it all boiles down to honesty,which is sometimes the exception,not the rule.

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                        • paintmann111
                          Registered User
                          • Jan 2010
                          • 58

                          #27
                          I'm the one who bought the RT, I am still trying to fix the leak. The gun is in amazing condition and I am happy with it. Its just irritating because the leak won't go away, even with all new orings, but its probably something I did, because its leaking from a different place than before. LOL

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                          • Whee McGee
                            Back into Mags
                            • Aug 2007
                            • 711

                            #28
                            Originally posted by paintmann111
                            I'm the one who bought the RT, I am still trying to fix the leak. The gun is in amazing condition and I am happy with it. Its just irritating because the leak won't go away, even with all new orings, but its probably something I did, because its leaking from a different place than before. LOL
                            Give the orings time to settle. They must be worn in, and your leak should eventually go away as they settle.

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