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  • punkncat
    One foot less
    • Feb 2003
    • 5841

    #16
    Originally posted by pump
    honestly the mini should of been a dual noid closed bolt gun

    Why? So we could deal with twice the possibilty of noid related issues AND rollouts as well?

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    • pump
      Registered User
      • Jun 2003
      • 750

      #17
      Originally posted by punkncat
      Why? So we could deal with twice the possibilty of noid related issues AND rollouts as well?
      the mini already has noid issues, if it used 2 noids(humphey,skinner,asco,mac) it would have less issues, rollouts......thats what idiots who cant match paint get

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      • punkncat
        One foot less
        • Feb 2003
        • 5841

        #18
        Originally posted by pump
        the mini already has noid issues, if it used 2 noids(humphey,skinner,asco,mac) it would have less issues, rollouts......thats what idiots who cant match paint get

        Hey, that's funny pump.....especially when bores under certain sizes are near impossible to find. Only as of late are any manufacturers and private makers addressing the issue....and even at that, there is only the lurker, a CP barrel that may or not be made, an Ty's TWO inserts under .68 (well really one if you want to get really technical)

        And, IMO the only "noid issue" the mini has is when the user runs the input pressure too high and blows it out. That is hardly a manufacturing defect. The inline noid they are using is directly involved in how small and simple the operation of the marker is. Nothing wrong with it that the proper input pressure can't "fix"......

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        • splat15k
          The Beast from the East

          • Oct 2001
          • 1227

          #19
          Originally posted by punkncat
          Hey, that's funny pump.....especially when bores under certain sizes are near impossible to find. Only as of late are any manufacturers and private makers addressing the issue....and even at that, there is only the lurker, a CP barrel that may or not be made, an Ty's TWO inserts under .68 (well really one if you want to get really technical)

          And, IMO the only "noid issue" the mini has is when the user runs the input pressure too high and blows it out. That is hardly a manufacturing defect. The inline noid they are using is directly involved in how small and simple the operation of the marker is. Nothing wrong with it that the proper input pressure can't "fix"......

          Agreed. Between the three minis that my friends and I use, we have had ZERO noid issues.
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          • Frizzle Fry
            AO Micromag Guy
            • Mar 2009
            • 3280

            #20
            Originally posted by punkncat
            Hey, that's funny pump.....especially when bores under certain sizes are near impossible to find. Only as of late are any manufacturers and private makers addressing the issue....and even at that, there is only the lurker, a CP barrel that may or not be made, an Ty's TWO inserts under .68 (well really one if you want to get really technical)
            Scepter and Freak both have inserts under .68 and I use'm both. That said, there are a lot of big barrels out there.

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            • pump
              Registered User
              • Jun 2003
              • 750

              #21
              Originally posted by punkncat
              Hey, that's funny pump.....especially when bores under certain sizes are near impossible to find. Only as of late are any manufacturers and private makers addressing the issue....and even at that, there is only the lurker, a CP barrel that may or not be made, an Ty's TWO inserts under .68 (well really one if you want to get really technical)

              And, IMO the only "noid issue" the mini has is when the user runs the input pressure too high and blows it out. That is hardly a manufacturing defect. The inline noid they are using is directly involved in how small and simple the operation of the marker is. Nothing wrong with it that the proper input pressure can't "fix"......
              well i never had anything that .682 didnt work on, also.....nail polish

              and i have seen many noid issues here in Hawaii, maybe those are the old ones that the core doesnt rise up, either way, normal pneumatic noids arent something that go down much

              and tuning for 2 noids isnt hard either

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              • leloup
                Mag Addicted
                • Feb 2009
                • 634

                #22
                I had one, it was ok. Got a hopper and two pods off a 45/45. I sold it, then got a threshold.

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                • usagi_tetsu
                  steel rabbit flings paint
                  • Jul 2004
                  • 205

                  #23
                  Originally posted by ProblemKinder
                  how unique is the design? is it similar to the angel? I keep hearing about poppets.
                  The design is fairly unique - on first look, they appear to be spool-valve markers, much like the Matrix and Shocker, but upon closer inspection, you realize they are actually a poppet-controlled spool (animations and an explanation can be found here). So, are they similar to Angels? No. They have poppets, but the poppet is solenoid pressure controlled, not solenoid pushed ram controlled like in most of your poppet markers.

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                  • cockerpunk
                    Haters Gonna Hate
                    • Sep 2004
                    • 1383

                    #24
                    the invert mini works by simultaneously increasing the opening force and decrease the closing force on the poppit. a simple design in concept, but a very dynamic gun with all the fluctuating pressures.



                    i had a gen1 one that i liked a lot. the things i disliked about it was the system used to clamp the reg on was poorly designed, the reg is not user serviceable, and it was a bit kicky/hard on paint.
                    "because every vengeful cop with a lesbian daughter, is having a bad day, and looking for someone to blame"

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