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  • winddancer
    Registered User
    • Apr 2004
    • 10

    #1

    Galactic Z Help!

    I have a Galactic Z Body but the rubber nubbin is missing. I'd appreciate it if someone who owns one could send me a photo of the nubbin, so I can find a substitute, or if anyone can tell me where I can buy an original. My email is [email protected] Thanks!!! Jon
  • Smoothice
    Registered User

    • Nov 2006
    • 4579

    #2
    Pm devilman. He knows how to make a new one and can give you instructions.

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    • DevilMan
      FeedBack is at my HomePage
      • Aug 2004
      • 2479

      #3
      hehehee..... I'll send ya a pm in in a bit man...

      I just got in from work and am tired... will do it in a few for ya...

      DM

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      • maniacmechanic
        PrestonCoPaintball
        • Aug 2006
        • 3453

        #4
        Originally posted by DevilMan
        hehehee..... I'll send ya a pm in in a bit man...

        I just got in from work and am tired... will do it in a few for ya...

        DM
        you work ?? i thought you were a crosscountry bum
        how ya been , what part of the world you in now ??
        BTW ; I changed the sig

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        • DevilMan
          FeedBack is at my HomePage
          • Aug 2004
          • 2479

          #5
          Originally posted by maniacmechanic
          you work ?? i thought you were a crosscountry bum
          how ya been , what part of the world you in now ??
          BTW ; I changed the sig
          heheehehee.. worked at my cuz'n's cafe here in town. He was running short handed so I pitched in and did some cookin and what not... Got free meals and pay as well...

          :P

          DM

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          • Ando
            Magusmaximus
            • Jun 2009
            • 4144

            #6
            I tried just about everything for those nubbins. Never could get one to hold up for more then a day worth of games. Best thing that worked for me was high temp RTV. Tried other RTV's but they would wear out too quickly. I would like to find some ballistic jell since that's what the original nubbins feel and look like they're made out of. I have about 2-4 days of games on the one I made with the high temp RTV.
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            • DevilMan
              FeedBack is at my HomePage
              • Aug 2004
              • 2479

              #7
              yup... that's what I used as well Ando...

              Not sure if I told you or not, as I can't remember that far back...

              Anywho... I'm still tired, but it's not super hard.

              get some black high temp RTV from autozone, walmart, advance autoparts, checkers, kragen, bumper to bumper, napa, etc...

              Get you a small piece of plastic and cut it to the size of the hole that goes into the breech. You will notice the spot for the nubbin is stepped. The hole into the breech is smaller than the hole up top. Cut a small piece of plastic to smaller than the size of the smallest hole. It's not overly exact, but you are wanting to give the screw something more solid to press into to push the nubbin into the breech.

              Put a piece of tape of some kind on the inside of the breech. this is to give you a way to press the RTV into the hole and not worry about you running into the breech. You can use tape, or anything else as long as you know that the hole is sealed well.

              Fill the pocket with the RTV to mostly full. While it's still very wet, push the piece of plastic into the RTV to where it is flush with the top of the cavity. Remember the rest of the parts have to slide onto the dovetail mount, so make sure the plastic is down enough that it won't hit.

              When you do this it will cause the RTV to ooze up over the full level. that's fine, don't worry. Make sure the tape or whatever on the inside of the breech is good and sealed. You can feel it with your finger. And make sure that the plastic is in the proper place. Put the body in a safe spot and leave it alone for a few days to let the RTV cure.

              After it is good and dry, take a razor blade and cut off the little bits that oozed up to where the cap will slide onto the dovetail.

              If you can't figure out what to do after a few steps previous to this one, just don't even bother and sell it to me for super cheap!

              The plastic will allow the screw to push the RTV into the bore to give friction to the ball.

              Good luck and let us know how it works out for ya...

              DM

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              • winddancer
                Registered User
                • Apr 2004
                • 10

                #8
                Thanks

                Thanks Devilman for the help and thanks Smoothice for the reply. It doesn't sound so hard. I'll give it a try.... Winddancer

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                • Ando
                  Magusmaximus
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 4144

                  #9
                  Ya..I still have our convo saved from Sept. of last year. You had suggested RTV which I tried before with not so great results but then remembered there's a good 30 different types to chose from.

                  After trying out everything but the kitchen sink...From rubber cement, silicone, cutting up about 30+ of those 25 cent bouncy balls you get from the toy machine at the mall, styrofoam based products etc...etc... I've tried a ton of stuff but finally broke down and and purchased a few other types of RTV. I tried about 6-8 different ones till I found one that worked the best. I'm still wanting to try out ballistic jell though.

                  If anyone has some and is willing to part with an 1/8 or 1/4 cup of it. That would be awesome
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                  • winddancer
                    Registered User
                    • Apr 2004
                    • 10

                    #10
                    Casting Rubber

                    Although I haven't tried making any nubbins for the Galactic Z yet, I've done a lot of mold making for sculpture etc. and I think that the best material to use is a two part, curing, mold making rubber, rather than any of the RTV or similar materials that come in a single tube from auto supply stores. The RTV is very soft and is only meant to be used in thin layers, so it has no tensile strength.

                    The two part rubbers that are used to make molds are much stronger and cure by a chemical reaction, so they don't shrink when they cure. The main problem though is that they usually only come in one or five gallon containers and are very expensive. Here's a link to an art supply that sells small quantities. I don't know anything about this particular rubber, but I can guarantee that it's far better than RTV rubber.

                    This easy-to-use silicone rubber compound is perfect for first-time silicone users who don’t have specialized mold-making equipment. Smooth-On Oomoo 25 has a convenient one-to-one by volume mix ratio, so no scale is necessary


                    Another possibility is the impression rubber that dentists use. It comes in small injectable cartridges like some epoxies and I see it on eBay every once in a while. I've never used it for molds, but I always wanted to try it,

                    In a week or two I'll try making the nubbins with some silicone mold making rubber that I have left over and will let you all know how it goes.

                    Regards....Jon

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                    • Smoothice
                      Registered User

                      • Nov 2006
                      • 4579

                      #11
                      Originally posted by winddancer
                      Thanks Devilman for the help and thanks Smoothice for the reply. It doesn't sound so hard. I'll give it a try.... Winddancer
                      No problem

                      DM actually used to play with the guy that created the Galactic Z body. So i'm pretty sure he is the closest thing we have to an expert

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                      • DevilMan
                        FeedBack is at my HomePage
                        • Aug 2004
                        • 2479

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Smoothice
                        No problem

                        DM actually used to play with the guy that created the Galactic Z body. So i'm pretty sure he is the closest thing we have to an expert
                        Well though I did play with Yoshi and the Dragons back in the day, I wouldn't say that I would be the expert on it... A 2 part urethane such as some of the stuff that you can get from TFB plastics will more than likely work better. BUT if you have ever used the Z body, you will find that the nubbin does need more give than anything. Otherwise it tears apart. You don't need alot of force to make it work.

                        That and a few bucks for a tube compared to $40+ for a pint that you need 2 drops out of...

                        Well you get the idea...

                        If you do try something else, please let us know how ti works out.

                        DM

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                        • flyingpootang
                          Magtechian with X disease

                          • Dec 2005
                          • 2276

                          #13
                          Originally posted by DevilMan
                          hehehee..... I'll send ya a pm in in a bit man...

                          I just got in from work
                          DM
                          WORK???? Ok who are you and what did you do with Mook

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                          • going_home
                            Hebrews 13:8

                            • Dec 2004
                            • 8343

                            #14
                            Apex Barrel

                            By the time you fix the nubbin and find a .697 barrel you will have spent more time and money than if you just went and bought an Apex barrel.
                            Just saying.





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                            • Coralis
                              Hyper Micro
                              • Aug 2005
                              • 1285

                              #15
                              how thick is the rubber nubbin approximately ??

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