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  • robertsr1811
    Long time Lurker

    • Sep 2003
    • 338

    #16
    Originally posted by going_home
    By the time you fix the nubbin and find a .697 barrel you will have spent more time and money than if you just went and bought an Apex barrel.
    Just saying.





    You of all people should know that this isn't the point.

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    • Ando
      Magusmaximus
      • Jun 2009
      • 4144

      #17
      Originally posted by Coralis
      how thick is the rubber nubbin approximately ??
      It basically takes up the whole cavity. Just fill it up and let it dry. Make sure you spray some type of oil inside to keep it from sticking on the walls. It's still removable if you don't. Just takes a little more time and might tear your work if not done properly. The cure time is 12hrs for most RTV's but it'll be setup enough after 4hrs and you should be able to remove it.

      Originally posted by going_home
      By the time you fix the nubbin and find a .697 barrel you will have spent more time and money than if you just went and bought an Apex barrel.
      Just saying.





      ROFL...I think Roberts told you where to stick that APEX

      EDIT:

      And Winddancer. If you have a freak setup. They have .697 inserts that works.
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      • going_home
        Hebrews 13:8

        • Dec 2004
        • 8343

        #18
        Originally posted by robertsr1811
        You of all people should know that this isn't the point.
        My point was the Z body isnt worth the time.
        I've owned a few of them, all of them had the nubbin.
        Even modded a level 10 on one of them.
        After building several of them I came to the conclusion
        they arent worth messing with.
        And as far as being mags, well, they are pretenders.
        The hype surrounding them is just that, all hype.
        They dont perform as hyped and they are more finicky than a pump mag.
        The Apex barrel is far superior in performance.
        Speaking from experience and dollars spent on Z's.
        Not trying to rain on the parade but a famous man once said :

        "It is what it is".


        Face value//


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        • DevilMan
          FeedBack is at my HomePage
          • Aug 2004
          • 2479

          #19
          Originally posted by going_home
          My point was the Z body isnt worth the time.
          I've owned a few of them, all of them had the nubbin.
          Even modded a level 10 on one of them.
          After building several of them I came to the conclusion
          they arent worth messing with.
          And as far as being mags, well, they are pretenders.
          The hype surrounding them is just that, all hype.
          They dont perform as hyped and they are more finicky than a pump mag.
          The Apex barrel is far superior in performance.
          Speaking from experience and dollars spent on Z's.
          Not trying to rain on the parade but a famous man once said :

          "It is what it is".


          Face value//


          Hype or not, I do know they work to some extent. Albeit more random than not... BUT at least it still works just as well as a regular mag if its not working properly. My deal with them is that I was shooting one way back when and so it's more of a reminder of yesteryears with some great folks than about trying to prove to anyone that it works or not. It's also a way to say that the APEX barrel is not the first of it's kind, or that the Flatline was either...

          I do know that Yoshi had his made in such a way as to be able to curve the ball to the right or the left, by rotating the nubbin around.. So it WAS possible to "shoot around trees" Trust me.. I was victim to it more than one time both in game and out of game just "proving" it.

          And Winddancer that stuff that you use for mold making should work. I know I have some samples of the stuff from the company called "SMOOTH ON" which I'm sure you know about. I do think it'd make some good nubbins, but I've not bought any of it. One thing to keep in mind, is that the ORIGINAL nubbins are prone to "break" and shear off... that is because they are too rigid. It don't take much to spin the ball... and it really has more to do with what kind of shell the ball has than anything else. The old ZAP balls that were "micro dimpled" worked VERY WELL in the Z body! But the super slick/smooth balls of today, don't fair so well. Also Evil works alright, but a break in the gun is most upsetting! So beware!

          Let me know if you need anything else...

          DM

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          • going_home
            Hebrews 13:8

            • Dec 2004
            • 8343

            #20
            If you are the one selling the Z body mag on Ebay you really should disclose to bidders the nubbin is missing dont you think ?

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            • flyingpootang
              Magtechian with X disease

              • Dec 2005
              • 2276

              #21
              Finicky as a Pumpmag??? I own both the Rainmann and tge AGD/Jay8541 kit and never had a problem. It's more if you don't know how to set one up problem than anything else...

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              • going_home
                Hebrews 13:8

                • Dec 2004
                • 8343

                #22
                Originally posted by flyingpootang
                Finicky as a Pumpmag??? I own both the Rainmann and tge AGD/Jay8541 kit and never had a problem. It's more if you don't know how to set one up problem than anything else...
                A pump mag is almost as finicky as a cocker.
                Heres the test bro, hand a pump mag to someone that has never used one before,
                and see if the first time they pump it, the pump doesnt come off in their hands.

                You know what I'm talking about.
                They pump it once and the marker is in one hand and the pump handle is in the other.
                I learned I dont have the patience for cockers or pump mags.
                They are both too finicky.

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                • DevilMan
                  FeedBack is at my HomePage
                  • Aug 2004
                  • 2479

                  #23
                  Originally posted by going_home
                  A pump mag is almost as finicky as a cocker.
                  Heres the test bro, hand a pump mag to someone that has never used one before,
                  and see if the first time they pump it, the pump doesnt come off in their hands.

                  You know what I'm talking about.
                  They pump it once and the marker is in one hand and the pump handle is in the other.
                  I learned I dont have the patience for cockers or pump mags.
                  They are both too finicky.

                  ummmm... I've never had ANY of the pump mags I've handled including my own to come apart...

                  You sure you weren't missing a nut?

                  DM

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                  • going_home
                    Hebrews 13:8

                    • Dec 2004
                    • 8343

                    #24
                    Originally posted by DevilMan
                    ummmm... I've never had ANY of the pump mags I've handled including my own to come apart...

                    You sure you weren't missing a nut?

                    DM
                    It was a Rainmann229 kit (modified CCM).
                    There is no nut except the one aiming the marker.

                    I guess winddancer decided not to tell bidders the nubbin was missing on the Z body.

                    http://cgi.ebay.com/Excellent-AGD-Ga...item2559dfe88b

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                    • robertsr1811
                      Long time Lurker

                      • Sep 2003
                      • 338

                      #25
                      What I mean, GH, is that it doesn't matter if it works good or not. We want it because it's old and weird.

                      I have a RamRod rail barrel and a Ronin Gear Katana adjustable bore barrel for just the same reason.

                      It's not a matter of "does it work as described"... It's all about the silly. I'll get mine running and rock it out just for kicks as well.

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