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  • garbageman705
    I was the garbageman
    • Dec 2007
    • 476

    #1

    What tank size do you all recommend?

    How many shots can an X valve get from a 90 CI 4500 PSI tank? I'm looking to order a tank soon. The 68 is 10 1/2 inches long and the 90 is 12 1/2 inches long. I'm leaning towards the 90 but not sure about size and weight. That is if it is a good idea over the 68.
  • Frizzle Fry
    AO Micromag Guy
    • Mar 2009
    • 3280

    #2
    I don't have a problem with my 68/45s but I prefer a 88/45 for a long day of play.

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    • BiNumber3
      Dazed and Confused

      • Feb 2008
      • 1038

      #3
      Prolly also depends on if u have easy access to air, if you dont, get the larger tank.

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      • 68magOwner
        Registered User
        • May 2003
        • 3475

        #4
        68/45

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        • kcombs9
          Registered User
          • Sep 2006
          • 908

          #5
          I have a 88/45, but my local fields and shops only fill to 3k if I'm lucky, If they did Full 4.5k fills I could get by with a 68.

          At LL3 with 4.5k fills I was getting easy 6-7 pods + hopper our of my 88.

          The final battle I only did a 3k fill cause the line was so long at the 4.5k fill stations and I was around 800psi after shooting 5 pods and a hopper.

          "How many shots can an X valve get from a 90 CI 4500 PSI tank? I'm looking to order a tank soon. The 68 is 10 1/2 inches long and the 90 is 12 1/2 inches long. I'm leaning towards the 90 but not sure about size and weight. That is if it is a good idea over the 68."


          the Weight difference will be minimal.

          A ruff calculation for shots

          15 * ci for 4.5k
          10 * ci for 3k

          so a 90 4.5 can get around 1350 shots
          and a 68 4.5 around 1020 shots.

          Your only looking at about 2pod difference between the 2 tanks.

          If you get the 90 and its too long get a CP razor drop and it will fit like a 68. IMO
          Last edited by kcombs9; 06-10-2010, 06:47 AM.

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          • garbageman705
            I was the garbageman
            • Dec 2007
            • 476

            #6
            Sounds like the 90 is the way to go for me.

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            • bound for glory
              retired bootboy
              • Sep 2004
              • 368

              #7
              i like a big *** tank. try a 114.

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              • athomas
                Of course it works-its AGD
                • Jan 2002
                • 8039

                #8
                A less than efficient mag will use about 200 in-lb of air each shot. Some much less (Mine uses about 175). Some will use more air.

                Based on 200 in-lb of air usage:

                68ci - 4500psi tank - 1250 shots
                68ci - 3000psi tank - 750 shots

                90ci - 4500psi tank - 1665 shots
                90ci - 3000psi tank - 990 shots
                Except for the Automag in front, its usually the man behind the equipment that counts.

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                • bound for glory
                  retired bootboy
                  • Sep 2004
                  • 368

                  #9
                  do they make 114's anymore?

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                  • garbageman705
                    I was the garbageman
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 476

                    #10
                    Can I really get 1600 shots with a 90 4500 and a level X bolt?

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                    • 2BAD4U
                      AutoMag_SuperStar...
                      • Sep 2006
                      • 354

                      #11
                      Originally posted by garbageman705
                      Can I really get 1600 shots with a 90 4500 and a level X bolt?
                      anything is possible ...

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                      • athomas
                        Of course it works-its AGD
                        • Jan 2002
                        • 8039

                        #12
                        Originally posted by garbageman705
                        Can I really get 1600 shots with a 90 4500 and a level X bolt?
                        Yes you can. I get 1400 shots from a 68-4500. It depends a lot on the barrel. If you use one that has small ports and a long control section that is unported, you get better efficiency. The unported section should be about 10 or 11" long. Good quality paint allows you to properly size the barrel to the paint for best efficiency by reducing friction and blow-by. Operate the mag at 280fps instead of 295fps. You'll save a lot of air there. Don't dry fire a lot. It uses a lot more air to dry fire.
                        Except for the Automag in front, its usually the man behind the equipment that counts.

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                        • Frizzle Fry
                          AO Micromag Guy
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 3280

                          #13
                          Originally posted by athomas
                          Yes you can. I get 1400 shots from a 68-4500. It depends a lot on the barrel. If you use one that has small ports and a long control section that is unported, you get better efficiency. The unported section should be about 10 or 11" long. Good quality paint allows you to properly size the barrel to the paint for best efficiency by reducing friction and blow-by. Operate the mag at 280fps instead of 295fps. You'll save a lot of air there. Don't dry fire a lot. It uses a lot more air to dry fire.

                          I can get a case and then some off a 68/45 with an old half-port Freak and a well matched insert (not too loose, not to tight). Granted dry firing like an idiot to show off the R/T effect or prove that my mechanical marker doesn't just look good but shoots well too means I get two fills per day when only shooting a case.

                          That ideal setup makes you sound like a ninja, too... I've had renters ask if my marker is "sileneced"

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                          • athomas
                            Of course it works-its AGD
                            • Jan 2002
                            • 8039

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Frizzle Fry
                            I can get a case and then some off a 68/45 with an old half-port Freak and a well matched insert (not too loose, not to tight). Granted dry firing like an idiot to show off the R/T effect or prove that my mechanical marker doesn't just look good but shoots well too means I get two fills per day when only shooting a case.

                            That ideal setup makes you sound like a ninja, too... I've had renters ask if my marker is "sileneced"
                            And I thought mine was pretty good for a mag. That is really good. You must have just the right combination of barrel length and bore id.
                            Except for the Automag in front, its usually the man behind the equipment that counts.

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                            • cockerpunk
                              Haters Gonna Hate
                              • Sep 2004
                              • 1383

                              #15
                              with a solid 1-2 undebore at LL3 i was shooting my Emag pulling 6 pods plus a prophecy and still having 1500ish left on a 68/45 filled to about 4k. thats almost an 1100, and i probably had a pod left or so. full fills would easily be a 1400.
                              "because every vengeful cop with a lesbian daughter, is having a bad day, and looking for someone to blame"

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