mag I just got

[OPBN]

The color on the valve back looks like polished aluminum (would be 8 hole already).

Maybe it's one of the fabled Titanium ones?

I guessed maybe a Hurricane Labs back in the first thread he posted on this.

[mustangguy]

wow, confusing.....would better pics help to clarify if it is a clone or real......guy I bought it of of, said the frame is a PMI frame, but had to modify the dear to get safety to work....that is what the guy that he bought it from told him, just relaying the info to here....does that make any sense?

[athomas]

Its a benchmark frame for a mag. The only modification needed to make the safety work is to adjust the trigger rod.

The fact that it has a screw in detent indicates that it is not a PTP body. PTP bodies used a lever type detent. I don't think even the original PTP bodies came without detents, so an aftermarket detent is unlikely. That detent was probably part of the body design when made as a clone.

I do know, if it is a PTP body or has the same internal breach diameter, that you will have to sand the front lip of the bolt to make it fit. It doesn't take much and is very worth it to make the level 10 work in it.

Here is what a similar PTP body looks like:

[Frizzle Fry]

Gotta ask, where were you playing in Canada pre-90?

[mustangguy]

I played at the flagswipe field, can remember exact location but it was out in the east end off of Dundas,, I remember a gliding club being nearby. Also played at a field in Bothwell, cant remember who ran the field, and Flagswipe moved to the location in Union towards the end when I was not playing as much. I still have my patched for Flagswipe Big Games for 90 and 91, they were both played on the first field I mentioned above. You form my area as well?

[mustangguy]

I have yet to take a mag apart, I just got this yesterday, works well right now. I do have everythinng needed to build my other on I think, as well as have a spare level 10 bolt for this one. But as I said, never taken a mag apart yet. So what would I be looking at to try to put the level 10 on this? What possible issues on seeing if it will fit would I be looking for? I have been itching to play now for a while, and want to get out so i dont want to get into issues fixing this one if I take it apart. As for my build on the other, I have another stock mag, it has a level 10 in it witht the stock valve. Also have a X valve with level 10, ULT on/off, ULE body, Kaner barrel kit, and I want to try to get the BOOYAh frame I have on it, but from what I read, it might be a challenge. I would at least like to try, if I cant do it for my first build, probably get an Intelliframe. In a nutshell I just want a good solid one to fall back on (the one in this thread) that way if my build goes slow (guessing it will being my first). i have something to use. I just want to take my time, do lots of reading, ansking questions and learn the marker well. So far thanks for all the help anwsering all the questions and generating tons of new ones.

[Spider-TW]

Level 10 bolts take a little getting used to when it comes to tuning them and troubleshooting. Level 7 bolts usually just leak or not. There's lots of good forum threads on them. Once you get used to them, they become the default (except on pump mags).

Athomas was referring to the tip of the level 10 bolt. They tend to have a slight bulge at the tip, as compared to the old level 7's. On some bodies the breach opening is too tight of a fit for a level 10, and you have to decide which one is more important for you to keep in it's original condition, the body or the bolt. Some bodies I wouldn't mind sanding a bit, but not a PTP.

If you haven't tried a particular mod before, try to do one thing at a time. That means get your mag working very well with a regular frame and the right on/off before you add the booyah frame.

[Rudz]

Here's a write up I did

Ir explains lvl X tuning as simple as can be

http://www.mcarterbrown.com/forums/a...ting-tips.html

[mustangguy]

in regards to my first build, that was going to be my plan I think, build it all without the booyah, get it all working well, then attemt to add the electric trigger......just want to see how quick I can get it going, seen some crazy vids on youtube......I enjoy tinkering, but just lack the time, with 2 kids etc. but loved paying back in the day, I always wanted a mag, I still remember when they first came out, my pump just couldnt keep up anymore with the mags and cockers and didnt want to spend that kind of cash back in the day. I still have my old pumps, and am waiting for a all pump day at the local fields, they say they will be trying to set some up. I loved my old Cobra, still works like the day I bought it, and since then dug up a few more of them form friends on the all pump days, I have 5 cobras, 2 of which are King Cobras, and also have 2 of the 20" Baracuda barrels for them as well. Loved the sport then, and talking to guys on here and MC brown has been great and cant wait to get out and play again!!

[Frizzle Fry]

You form my area as well?

Nope. I just remembering popping over the border at Niagara and going to a few fields, which I think would have been fairly close to where you are.

[mustangguy]

Niagara is about 3 hours from me.

[Frizzle Fry]

Niagara is about 3 hours from me.

Is it? I thought London was near Brantford... Niagara is about 6 from me

[mustangguy]

brantofrd is about an hour, Niagara is closer to 2 hours now that the 403 goes direct to Niagara now, forgot about that

[mustangguy]

so anyone have a double trigger kicking around for it?

[mustangguy]

was just surfing the forum, came accross this tac1 and it has the same dentent as mine? Maybe it is a real body then and not a clone?
link to the tac 1

http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=252172