Smart Parts files for chapter 7 bankruptcy

[CatoRockwell]

Good ole "GWB" never ever saw a spending bill that he wouldnt sign.
"O" is walking right in his footsteps only faster.

Where is all this money going to come from, thats what I want to know.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, the US economy is treading water now,
but make no mistake, it will soon sink.
And then the NWO people can follow their long held plans and change the currency.

Don't worry they think they can just keep printing paper money to fix all their problems. Thats how we'll pay for it, in the devaluation of the dollar.

They think they can just live off of debt forever and that the day of reckoning will never come.

God Bless America

[Thotograph]

Pan-Amero's here we come

Hoorray SP financial meltdown... Anyone else feel like shooting an Ion with a 12gauge just to see what it does?

Banana-Man does!

- - - - - - - - take that SP - - - - - - - -

[bound for glory]

people out of work. funny stuff
give this country a few more years and lets see how many people will be playing paintball.
when the rumors of smart parts troubles begain to get all over the net, i call them to see if they had any good deals...yeah, like a vulture. see if i could drive up(i'm in pa. now) and get a shocker on the cheap for my boy. the girl was just about in tears when i talked to her. said she was kept in the dark about the whole think. she said the brothers kept saying it was all good.
let me tell you guys something. i'm a history teacher. i grew up in new jersey. i lived on the same block, in the same little town. got married and lived on that same street.
i make crap money as a teacher. i had to get a part time job at m&m to keep ahead. we have one child. i could'nt afford to live in my state. in my town. on my street.
so i had to move to this hick town in pa. up in the coal mineing hills. where everybody seems to be on wellfare. nobody seems to work. think bush was bad :rofl: this idiot the people wanted is gonna kill this country.
but i'm glad his wife is taking alot of vacations my fanily could'nt afford one this summer

[KillerOfGiants]

but i'm glad his wife is taking alot of vacations my fanily could'nt afford one this summer

i'm sure they'll send you a post-card.

[bound for glory]

is that suppose to be funny? idiot. you must have voted for the "novelty" of having a piece of dog in office. try working 2 jobs.
i for one, feel bad that some office people and warehouse staff are getting the boot because the great brothers could'nt even come clean to the people they should know.





Edit........Your a teacher and I had to do an edit. Nice. You know the rules here. Follow them when you post here. If you cant please dont post here.

[OPBN]

Interesting the disparity between teacher salaries from state to state. Teachers here in Ohio seem to be pretty well paid.

I don't really have feelings either way about SP going under since I kind of came in after all the crap went down. I would like to see another generation of AGD electro though it doesnt seem like it's going to happen.

[mag79]

is that suppose to be funny? idiot. you must have voted for the "novelty" of having a piece of dog in office. try working 2 jobs.
i for one, feel bad that some office people and warehouse staff are getting the boot because the great brothers could'nt even come clean to the people they should know.

The pres may be an idiot but he's not to blame for you picking a profession that doesn't pay well.

It does suck that people are loosing there jobs, but do you really believe that their employees were blind to their situation.

[bound for glory]

first, do some real reserch, teacher have HISTORICLY been paid low wages. i can't even beleive theres still people who don't know that. #2 not cool telling me if i can't follow the rules "don't post here". i don't have a history of being banned or getting warnings. could have just pm'ed me...
and yeah, i think i beleive the girl on the phone was telling me the truth.
heres the thing: this smart parts thing is waaaay past played. it was played 3 -4 years ago. "i hate smart parts"..."smart parts sucks"...smart parts ruined paintball"..."smart parts made me catch cold". smart parts is(or was) a business. they were underhanded, yes. they wronged many and all they cared to. but they did it to make money.
bob long said to me and a friend once(at national paintball), "i know the timmys aren't very well made, but the kids are buying them...guy did'nt care. he just wanted to make money. and i'm not saying bob did'nt come off as an alright guy.
now, here on ao, most are happy smart parts are bankrupt. thats fine. maybe theres so many members here who are so well off that it does'nt mean a thing a few dozen(i'm guessing) people are gonna lose thier jobs. fine again. but ya know what? not a thing will change.
think tom's gonna wake up tommorow and make a new gun? sounds great. but i can't see it happening. and i'd never speak for the man myself. think those pats. smart parts owns just ...what?
we automaggers are a weird bunch. we pay very high prices for old tech guns. now don't start going nuts! its very HIGH quality stuff. but in our hearts we know its passed by. and i'm a automag snob myself. got the 3rd mag sent to new jersey. i've owned 2 automags, 3 micromags, 2 r/t pros, 1 emag and a devilmag. i have passed up playing (for free) at emr paintball because i'm mag-less. i just won't play without a mag(and tbh, a warped mag )
but there are downsides...my boy is just about old enough to play, and i bought him a model 98 and i thought i'd put togeather an emag for this old man. guess what, i am put off on what it would cost me to put one thgeather. i want to play ball with my son, but i guess it will be with something else. and that sucks.
and if i beleived the soft parts were gonna be around for awhile, i'd get a shocker.

[halB]

is that suppose to be funny? idiot. you must have voted for the "novelty" of having a piece of dog in office. try working 2 jobs.
i for one, feel bad that some office people and warehouse staff are getting the boot because the great brothers could'nt even come clean to the people they should know.





Edit........Your a teacher and I had to do an edit. Nice. You know the rules here. Follow them when you post here. If you cant please dont post here.

You're not a history teacher. I heard most teachers have class.

[OPBN]

Hoping to God he isn't an English teacher. As for working two jobs, you do what you have to do. Perhaps you should have done more research before spending 4yrs of college preparinig for a career that you feel is undercompensated. One of the reasons I didn't go into law enforcement 20 years ago is that I didn't feel like getting shot at for $20k/year starting salary. And as I said, I am surprised at what seems like a pretty big disparity from state to state for teachers salaries. I think starting salary locally is in the $30k or so range. Considering they only work for 9 months out of the year and get full insurance coverage for themselves and their families, it seems pretty good to me. Of course, their standards are high, and the majority have masters level degrees, or are working towards them.

Regardless of all this, blaming the crash of SP or your personal financial issues on a president that has only been in office for less than two years is a bit silly. With that said, I didn't vote for him, and looking forward to the end of his term.

[halB]

Hoping to God he isn't an English teacher. As for working two jobs, you do what you have to do. Perhaps you should have done more research before spending 4yrs of college preparinig for a career that you feel is undercompensated. One of the reasons I didn't go into law enforcement 20 years ago is that I didn't feel like getting shot at for $20k/year starting salary. And as I said, I am surprised at what seems like a pretty big disparity from state to state for teachers salaries. I think starting salary locally is in the $30k or so range. Considering they only work for 9 months out of the year and get full insurance coverage for themselves and their families, it seems pretty good to me. Of course, their standards are high, and the majority have masters level degrees, or are working towards them.

Regardless of all this, blaming the crash of SP or your personal financial issues on a president that has only been in office for less than two years is a bit silly. With that said, I didn't vote for him, and looking forward to the end of his term.

Let's be honest, do you think this guy could work any job and NOT be amazingly bitter and hateful towards the world?

[CatoRockwell]

I actually believe public employees are overpaid. Like what was previously stated, teachers in particular only work 9 months out of a year, with full benefits, etc...

If you go into work for the government you go into it for security, government jobs are the most secure and least likely to have layoffs, you don't go into it for the big bucks. You want to make a lot of money? Put together a good resume and get hired in the private sector.

I'm sorry if civil servants feel entitled to better wadges, but I feel entitled to the fruit of my labor and when I am getting taxed at a 30% bracket it's really hard to justify to me that I need to dump more money into an education system that simply does not work.

Lets use another example, on a local level we apparently have enough police officers that they can spend all day driving around writing up tickets for traffic violations. They want us to increase public spending on them. Well I think to myself, "wait a minute, if there are so many cops and so few crimes that they don't have to spend their time focused on real crime. Why should we spend more money?" If anything it sounds like they need a budget cut.

Now I agree that our scumbag president, heck I think it's fair to say that our scumbag leaders (at least 95% of them are scumbags) don't deserve the money or perks they have with their office.

I could go on and on about how annoyed I am that the government always wants more of my money.

But back to Smart Parts, good riddance to bad rubbish. Trying to justify their actions by saying "business is business" is the most pathetic argument I've heard. Just because it's business does not mean you should engage in dishonest or shady practices. There are plenty of examples of businessmen who have honesty and honor.

As for the employees I won't speak for them individually, but unfortunately thats what you get for working for a company like Smart Parts. Its not like it was a big secret that they were run by scumbags.

I'm having a really hard time seeing how anyone can feel bad for, or think that Smart Parts going out of business is bad for the sport. If anything it shows that their actions had reprecussions, lets hope that dishonesty is similarly rewarded throughout the sport.

[Piranti]

Currently, most Government sector jobs are being paid up to TWICE what the same job in the public sector would get. On top of that because most belong to some union, they beef up their paychecks the last year to raise their pension for life. 100k invested, 3m return, math doesn't add up why states and municipalities are going bankrupt.

Anyways, Smart parts issue...

1. Bad because some folks losing their jobs.
2. Good, Gardener Bro.s no longer hold the patents to bully other PB Companies around. (as long as they don't try to end around buy them from the bank that currently owns them).
3. Possible good when the Patents become public domain, but only time will tell there.



PS. I hardly believe you are a teacher with the way you have posted. If you are I really feel for students under you, and our education system. (And yes I do work for an company in the Education sector)


Those who can't, Teach.

[cockerpunk]

i like how anything bad happening to anyone in the entire USA can be blamed on "this novelty peice of dog ****" that we elected.

OMG, some poeple some where had something bad happen to them? must be that damned obama again! OMG, poeple who worked for the garnders lost there jobs becuase of bad managment and a poor business plan? OBAMA you struck again!



for wanting the government to be smaller and get out of our lives, you sure can blame everything that happens on the government .. the market spoke, and the garnders paid the price. no on in any elected office had anything to do with it.

[halB]

i like how anything bad happening to anyone in the entire USA can be blamed on "this novelty peice of dog ****" that we elected.

OMG, some poeple some where had something bad happen to them? must be that damned obama again! OMG, poeple who worked for the garnders lost there jobs becuase of bad managment and a poor business plan? OBAMA you struck again!



for wanting the government to be smaller and get out of our lives, you sure can blame everything that happens on the government .. the market spoke, and the garnders paid the price. no on in any elected office had anything to do with it.

You would think those good, honest, god-fearing folks would worship obama if he displayed such omnipotence.