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  • punkncat
    One foot less
    • Feb 2003
    • 5841

    #1

    New mag anno....

    Having just picked up another mag, gots a question about the anno. This one was purchased new by the guy I got it from in June. It is a "stock" Xvalved mag and has the tac rail on it, intelliframe, etc.

    The whole marker seems to be more of a satin black, not really gloss, not dust per se. It just has a dull finish overall. I like it for the most part, aside from the valve. It also has a satin feel to it, def not near as glossy or deep as I remember the X valves I owned in the past. The reg half itself shows a great deal of blem in the anno under sunlight. I cannot even get my camera to pick it up as I cannot get focus that close, but to the eye it is very noticable. Looks a lot like overspray from a paint can, but there is nothing "on" the valve, the blem is def under the finish. I have also noticed a somewhat "snowflake" looking characteristic to the finish on the ULE body.

    Overall, it is not unpleasing aside from the valve, those blems should have never passed. In defence, if it were assembled and tested under electric light the problem would never have even been seen. Dust parts match quite well, much like they do with the tac body. Since there is no specification on the store between dust and gloss, are all the parts like this now? Are the days of deep, rich anno and good finish on the final polishing done?

    As another side note to this observation, it seemed as if the price for the RT "custom" has fallen some from what I remember. So, was the lowering in price brought on by the change made in the anno process?
  • TwilightG
    www.BigEvilOnline.com

    • Mar 2007
    • 1387

    #2
    I've had the same experience lately too.

    At one point, I was searching for a gloss black ule body. Near impossible to find!
    I have no idea when exactly AGD changed their ano (since I buy all my mag parts used) but it looks like gloss black has become a rarity for all of their parts.

    It is a bit disappointing that a company which takes so much pride in quality would skimp on the finish

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    • Tunaman
      Specialized AGD Tech

      • Dec 2000
      • 8643

      #3
      Well if you guys want to pay for custom flawless anno jobs then be prepared to pay alot more for the parts. Some parts cost upwards of 10.00 each to be polished properly. Want a custom anno job? You already know where to look.
      Email me for low prices on ALL AGD Products and more. [email protected]
      Tunamart

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      • TwilightG
        www.BigEvilOnline.com

        • Mar 2007
        • 1387

        #4
        I was only pointing out that the quality of the ano has declined from what it once was.

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        • punkncat
          One foot less
          • Feb 2003
          • 5841

          #5
          It has been my experience in the past that AGD had some of the best anno in the business...PK Selective anyone? It seems like w/o warning, or notice, etc. that the finish quality went WAY off and I (for one) was very suprized by it.

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          • p8ntbal4me
            No more UTBs!
            • Aug 2003
            • 2560

            #6
            Originally posted by punkncat
            It has been my experience in the past that AGD had some of the best anno in the business...PK Selective anyone? It seems like w/o warning, or notice, etc. that the finish quality went WAY off and I (for one) was very suprized by it.

            That has nothing to do with AGD,.. its PKS.

            Word on the street for those of us sending out large numbers of parts to be anodized is that PKS is no longer the shop they once were.

            I have had one gun done YEARS ago by them,.... top notch.

            Now,... I wouldnt send them anything I was involved in making.
            _______________________
            Jai "P8ntbal4me" Menard

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            • Drix
              New Hampshire Indoor PB
              • Jul 2008
              • 552

              #7
              Haven't I heard that PKS changed owners? Or was that Grunt? One of them now has a brother running the show and their quality has gone significantly downhill.

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              • p8ntbal4me
                No more UTBs!
                • Aug 2003
                • 2560

                #8
                Originally posted by Drix
                Haven't I heard that PKS changed owners? Or was that Grunt? One of them now has a brother running the show and their quality has gone significantly downhill.
                The guy that was involved in PKS QC and batching has left PKS,.. this was over 3 years ago.

                I learned this from a friend.

                It has been confirmed by another person I know whom no longer buys and sells anything in paintball,.. but has anodizing done through PKS for the DoD.....

                He remarked a few months ago that the quality of the work "just isnt there anymore"
                _______________________
                Jai "P8ntbal4me" Menard

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                • hill160881
                  fire power my friends

                  • Jun 2008
                  • 1156

                  #9
                  O great. so who do i have do my ano on my mag?

                  Tunaman hinted, so any details. Or is it him.
                  Fire power my friends.

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                  • Spider-TW
                    U R techno-literate!

                    • Oct 2006
                    • 3554

                    #10
                    Originally posted by p8ntbal4me
                    The guy that was involved in PKS QC and batching has left PKS,.. this was over 3 years ago.

                    I learned this from a friend.

                    It has been confirmed by another person I know whom no longer buys and sells anything in paintball,.. but has anodizing done through PKS for the DoD.....

                    He remarked a few months ago that the quality of the work "just isnt there anymore"
                    And QC is over half the work for good ano. Clean and timely is the difference between any of us throwing a part in the acid and a nice professional ano job. Chemistry does not forgive.

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                    • bunny5
                      lurking
                      • Jan 2005
                      • 1099

                      #11

                      *PK Selective

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                      • captian pinky
                        Bearded Works

                        • Oct 2004
                        • 2755

                        #12
                        is that a recent anno or an older one and that is an amazing anno

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                        • bunny5
                          lurking
                          • Jan 2005
                          • 1099

                          #13
                          The marker above was anodized one year ago. I decided to test out a few anodizing companies and PK Selective is what I chose to get a Euro Xmag, Dallara, and two sfl emags done. I was very happy with the communication, turn around, and the finish.

                          They are more pricey than a few other anodizing companies around but the result is amazing.

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                          • Mongoose
                            VenomousDesigns.com

                            • Nov 2006
                            • 1593

                            #14
                            PK's prices went up and the quality went down......not even close to what they used to be. And yes the main person that handled the actual anno process has left a while ago.

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                            • p8ntbal4me
                              No more UTBs!
                              • Aug 2003
                              • 2560

                              #15
                              Originally posted by hill160881
                              O great. so who do i have do my ano on my mag?

                              Tunaman hinted, so any details. Or is it him.

                              I use the same company as Mongoose does. They have done AGD work in the past directly for AGD.

                              PTP uses the same company as well.

                              Time is something you cant really hold an anodizer to if you are getting a good rate per piece.

                              Longer you wait,.. the better the time frame they have to prep the work,.. the better the finish.
                              _______________________
                              Jai "P8ntbal4me" Menard

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