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  • AdrenalineMag
    PB Ref Extraordinare
    • Aug 2001
    • 132

    #16
    exactly, operating pressure has nothing to do with efiiciency. i believe mags are more efficient than cockers or other lp guns, because of one fact- low pressure = high volume. low pressure guns use more gas to make up for the pressure lack so they suck that tank dry very fast, ive got testimony for that. my friend at scenario games runs his tank dry before his pack, he uses a shocker divine with a 20oz co2 tank, oh as for the pack he has a redz 4v 140, so he gets um... like 600-700 shots off the tank, wow thats horrible...
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    • zvanut
      AO's Favorite Member
      • Jun 2001
      • 1817

      #17
      my mag is easy on air.

      600-700 shots off a 47 ci 3000 psi
      Tough Times Wont Last Forever...
      Tough People Will ~ Darryl Kile R.I.P. 2002

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      • FeelTheRT
        Registered User
        • Jun 2001
        • 2950

        #18
        Originally posted by AdrenalineMag
        mags are more efficient than cockers or other lp guns, because of one fact- low pressure = high volume. low pressure guns use more gas to make up for the pressure lack so they suck that tank dry very fast, ive got testimony for that. my friend at scenario games runs his tank dry before his pack, he uses a shocker divine with a 20oz co2 tank, oh as for the pack he has a redz 4v 140, so he gets um... like 600-700 shots off the tank, wow thats horrible...
        Not true. people who turn thier regs down and turn their velocity isn't not achieving true LP. If you want your gun to go LP you have to tinker around with it abit. That why i love Cockers so much because there are many things you can do to them. From just turning the presure down and turning the velocity up, it's waisting too much gas because the main spring pushing the hammer is keeping the valve open for too long therefor tons of air is wasted resulting in gas inefficancy. The true way of going LP is easily just getting a lighter valve spring and light main spring, it's the perfect combination.

        Mags aren't the most efficant guns because all it is is just a regulator. On most guns, there's a hammer hitting a valve allowing air to go up into the bolt and propelling the paintball.

        average Mags get around 900-1000 shots with a 68/45 while you can get a Cocker to shoot around 1200 shots with a 68/45 with correct setup.
        FS: RARE Adrenaline Angel LED #8



        ~~~ FS:ASA, angled drop ~~~
        ~~~ FS: DYE sight rail && Angel LCD bolt

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        • BlindSeaman
          Registered User
          • Jan 2002
          • 12

          #19
          Naw, speed isn't everything.
          And neither is the clickity clack of the back block.:P j/k
          I love my Battle Swab!:o
          Upgraded Spyder Xtra

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          • zads27
            Student of Life
            • May 2001
            • 565

            #20
            Originally posted by FeelTheRT
            Mags aren't the most efficant guns because all it is is just a regulator. On most guns, there's a hammer hitting a valve allowing air to go up into the bolt and propelling the paintball.
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            • FeelTheRT
              Registered User
              • Jun 2001
              • 2950

              #21
              zads27: sorry i didn't make that very clear. On most guns, theres a regulator regulating the presure down then going into the air chamber waiting for the valve to be opened by the hammer. Now lets say... cockers. There is a spring moving the hammer. By using different tention springs, you can change the efficancy and velocity. On one thread, i rememeber Nitroduck said his Cocker got 2000 shots off of a 68/45 tank!!

              The Angel and other open bolt semies are similar. Instead of a spring moving the hammer, the solenoid controls it like a cocker ram.

              On the Mag however, is abit different. The reg regulates the presure then the air sits in the air chamber just like any other guns. Now, the air is released by an on/off pin moved by the trigger>rod>sear. Since there's impossible to adjust the 'dwell' of the valve, the amount of air going into the bolt isn't adjustable like cockers or angels.
              FS: RARE Adrenaline Angel LED #8



              ~~~ FS:ASA, angled drop ~~~
              ~~~ FS: DYE sight rail && Angel LCD bolt

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              • SprayingMango
                i cant wait to blog this
                • Feb 2002
                • 4557

                #22
                "I love red potatoes."
                "Well I love Golden Yellow potatoes."
                "Red potatoes are so much better than yellow ones."
                "Oh yeah, yellow are better than red ones cause yellow is brighter which means that they taste better."

                Whats it all mean? Potatoes is potatoes.



                Nice gun, enjoy it!!!

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                • Shaft
                  Big Mean Ugly Ogre
                  • Sep 2001
                  • 797

                  #23
                  In all seriousness.... red potatoes are far better than any yellow potato.

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                  • Major Ho
                    Long time no see
                    • Jun 2001
                    • 1262

                    #24
                    Hey now! I resent that! I dont think you have ever tagged me even once. Nor have I tagged you. Usually on the same team arent we, I cant remember... I might just take your mag while its on the sidelines and fool around with it Ill then turn around and get you with your own gun. Moo hoo ha ha ha...

                    P.S. I think hes gonna use the mag anyways, his cocker is way tempermental. tee hee

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