In the entry level pump market, I can't recommend the Empire Trracer highly enough. Nelson based operation, modular feed (comes stock with a clamping feedneck, or can run the SA17 feed tube for stock class use), Cocker threaded, comes with Picantinny rails for accessory mounting.
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Second ^^^ I few of the guys I play with picked them up and really like them. 1 is a long time player and the other got it as his first pump. Neither one has had a real problem at the field (just keep an eye on the pump arm screws).Originally posted by Pump ScoutComment
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This would be my sugestiong for a sniper pump. Pick up a cheap trilogy cocker,remove the pnuematics from it and put a pump kit on it. For a $115 you have a center feed sniper pump gun. I played alot of pump with mine the last couple of summers and its been alot of fun for the money.
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Here's mine.Originally posted by XM15This would be my sugestiong for a sniper pump. Pick up a cheap trilogy cocker,remove the pnuematics from it and put a pump kit on it. For a $115 you have a center feed sniper pump gun. I played alot of pump with mine the last couple of summers and its been alot of fun for the money.
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I've shot a lot of pumps in my day; Traccers, PGP's, Hammers, P-68 SC's, P-68 AT's, Sl-68's, Phantoms, etc. This is my favorite pump. The thing I like about it is it was my first cocker, and it served me well for several years as a mech, then I somehow got the idea that it needed an Eblade, so I did that and upgraded it as far as a Trilogy has ever been upgraded. 
. Then I moved all that stuff over to a prettier body, and she's now "retired" to being a pump. I halfblocked it last winter because I was bored. Didn't even bother to re-anno. The thing I like about it is it's all business and looks a little rough. The way I play, this gun ends up on the ground occasionally, and sometimes has to survive a fall. But it's solid and can take it, kind of like a Mag.
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That's exactly what mine looks like now too. Only diference is I have a auto trigger on mine.Comment
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so the trilogy is basically the same thing as the sniper? for 100$ i could make a bran new trilogy pump nd throw my own reg on. would i be able to go to stock class relatively easily with one of these?Comment
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Paintball gateway has a sweet stock class tube that sits at a slight angle and just plugs into the existing feed cup. I think it's like $30
Edit: this --> http://www.paintballgateway.com/wgppugun13ro1.htmlLast edited by Smoothice; 12-16-2010, 10:28 AM.Comment
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my real concern was 12 grams.... how do cockers handle them? can they be used? how many shots per cylinder? etc...Comment
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Probably not as well as a Nelson based gun. I've honestly never tried running 12 grams on a Cocker. But I get about 1800 shots on a 68/4500 tank with my Trilly. I'm not really into stock class anymore. If I ever got back into seriously, I'd just get a Phantom SC and be done with it...Comment
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If you plan on playing a lot with 12 grams then I would go with a phantom over a sniper. Will save you money in the long run.Comment
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You'll get better gas efficiency with a nelson based gun than a cocker base. Or at that is my opinion. I've seen sheridan's also get good gas effeciency. Nelson's can get into the 40+ shot range per 12ie if you're willing to shoot slower (250fps) and don't mind the variability that comes from a huge power tube. I've seen cockers get in the 20s pretty easily too and sheridans in the 30s.
The thing that I would focus on is the feed. Are you going true stock class (magazine parallel to the barrel, holding 10-15 balls and not trapping a ball over the breech) or vert feed with a 50 round pocket hopper. that'll make a huge difference in what markers you should look at.
If you're going to consider CCMs in your search, don't forget Carters.Comment
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i think ccm's and carter are out of my price range.
ive never played pump and im interested in having an all around good pump that can go stock class or hopper fed. im looking for the versatility of stock class and setting it up for my own style.... if that makes sense. thats why im leaning towards a phantom if i dont like the stock clss config i can get a CA adapter and feed neck body.
whats the estimate on a 12 gram on a phantom? and someone mentione the variability of dump chamber, what variables are there?Comment
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The open class feed adapter for Phantoms is this: http://www.airsoldier.com/mm5/mercha...ode=CCIPHANTOMStay Classy, AO...BEO: RIP / Topgun Paintball: RIP / Old MCB: RIPComment
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Originally posted by Loneassassin
Dude, awesome!
I was thinking of making my trilogy electronic but didn't have the cash. This previous spring I had a friend take me to SPE and I needed a pump, bought the conversion and haven't looked back. Over the summer I almost turned it back into semi until I played with it again. Pretty much it's become one of my 3 main markers, other 2 are emag and tac-one. (i own lots of others). Only issue I've ever had with the cocker happened this summer. The o-ring used to seal the pump guide where the LPR is normally was destroyed in a weird way. It looked like 1/2 of a bagel with the inside scooped out. Just replaced and I was good to go again.
For what the OP was asking, this marker can be purchased for 65 from discount paintball and the pump conversion cost me 20 or so. Not bad. Plus you can possibly find this little gem like I did for $14 new http://www.pbreview.com/products/rev...od=1368&page=2
And not sure if it does matter to you, with WGP out of business cockers are going to become harder to find and possibly maintain.e-mag 226
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I just ordered one of the metadyne pumps. im looking forward to it. for the price of the pre order and the fact that it looks like they are making it compatible with quite a few upgrades already available for phantoms and quite a few other pump productsComment
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