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  • Loneassassin
    Registered User
    • Dec 2009
    • 186

    #1

    Have you ever received unwanted advice on the field?

    I had a moment on the field yesterday that kind of bothered me, not just due to what the guy said to me but my reaction to it.

    It was 3 on 3 rec speedball, and I hadn't played for close to 3 months. We randomly broke up the teams, and I ended up with a friend of mine (only his 2nd time playing, and he had to borrow my mech Autococker, which as you know, is not always the first choice for a beginner). My other teamate was a so-so player, but he and I had never really played together before. Two of the guys on the other team were pretty good, and I'd never seen the 3rd guy before. He turned out to be considerably better than them. But anyway, I didn't worry about any of that, and was excited to play.

    So the first game, my friend forgot to take the safety off, then finally asked me what was up and I was able to sort that out. Then he stepped out into an incoming paintball. We lost.

    Next game, he played his whole 2 minutes with his loader off, so no paintballs were leaving his gun. Then he stepped out into an incoming paintball. We lost.

    It was all kind of funny. In a 3rd game, he went out immediately again, and you guessed it, we lost again. The other guys were tough enough we just couldn't do much with the two of us.

    Anyway, I don't like losing 3 in a row. Granted, it's just rec ball, but I just don't like to lose like that. Then, the guy I didn't know walked up and told us we need to talk more on the field, we need to communicate. I didn't say anything to this but I (regrettably) gave him what was probably an icy stare.

    I felt like saying "excuse me, but who are you and have you been playing for 18 years? I know what went wrong, and I know how to play paintball, thank you very much." Fortunately, I didn't say this.

    But, back to the point, was I right to be angry? I have been playing for 18 years and have always analyzed my playing with a fine-toothed comb. I am confident facing anyone, anytime. I'm not saying I'm a perfect player by any means, but I usually do quite well no matter who I'm playing against. I think maybe this is partially MY problem in that I need to just shrug it off, but also a little his problem by offering advice that was not asked for. Perhaps it was just the way he said it - in kind of a patronizing tone - that rubbed me the wrong way.

    Your thoughts? Am I off-based? Please discuss.
    Last edited by Loneassassin; 08-21-2011, 07:08 AM.
  • shooter311
    Registered User

    • Sep 2009
    • 313

    #2
    I'm not saying you were wrong, but I don't see what the guy did wrong. I am always open to criticism, it makes me a better player.

    As you stated you never met the guy before, so he probably watched you and your friend who was trying to figure out the safety and why having a hopper maters (I'm still confused as to why they do), and figured you guys were starting out. There is no way he could have known that you have been playing for 18 years, or that you were good if he just watched you lose 3 straight games.

    I don't mind giving or receiving tips, it's a completely different view from the sidelines. Unless he was telling you that you play blindfolded, you might want to listen. I usually say "thanks for the advice" and walk off if the guy is spouting crap I already know (which is inevitable since I know everything ).

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    • behemoth
      SVSTC?
      • Nov 2002
      • 7750

      #3
      There will always be smack talkers on a paintball field, but the guy just said there needed to be more communication.

      I -always- tell my teammates that during walk-on play.


      Nothing is more frustrating than playing with a buncha dudes who dont talk, and just stand there and shoot at things. Theres a reason communication is a huge part of the sport.



      Sounds like you got butthurt from some young buck telling you to give him some info. You've been playing for 18yrs, so what? Is that supposed to mean you're good?

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      • Loneassassin
        Registered User
        • Dec 2009
        • 186

        #4
        Originally posted by behemoth
        There will always be smack talkers on a paintball field, but the guy just said there needed to be more communication.

        I -always- tell my teammates that during walk-on play.


        Nothing is more frustrating than playing with a buncha dudes who dont talk, and just stand there and shoot at things. Theres a reason communication is a huge part of the sport.

        I realize. When I play with people I know, there's plenty of communication. And in this case, there WAS communication, I don't know how someone on the other team could say there wasn't. Our third guy was basically out of the game immediately on each game.



        Sounds like you got butthurt from some young buck telling you to give him some info. You've been playing for 18yrs, so what? Is that supposed to mean you're good?
        That's probably right. And yes, after 18 years, I feel I'm a pretty good player. One thing I left out was that this guy was making other little comments all day; "know-it-all" types of comments. It kind of rubs me the wrong way...

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        • stevewar
          Mag Tinkererse
          • Sep 2007
          • 281

          #5
          Originally posted by Loneassassin
          That's probably right. And yes, after 18 years, I feel I'm a pretty good player. One thing I left out was that this guy was making other little comments all day; "know-it-all" types of comments. It kind of rubs me the wrong way...
          my .02 is that if you're old enough to have been playing for 18 years, then you're mature enough to say, hey buddy, thanks for your concern, but I'd appreciate if you'd keep your comments to yourself.

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          • Hobbez
            The Untitled
            • Jan 2010
            • 308

            #6
            Nod, smile, and say "ok", "alright", or "I got ya"

            Just by being polite and acknowleging the comment will make people remember you as cool, open and levelheaded, even if you completely ignore what they said. You don't need to follow the advice, just let them know you heard it. I've been playing since the mid 80's but, I play very carefully, slowly, and conservatively. I get unwanted advice about being more aggresive and moving more and shooting more almost every week from kids who love to run and jump shoot $300 a week of mommy's money. I nod, smile and simply say "ok" and continue to play the way I like to play. Afterall, I forked out my munnies to be there too.

            A little polite goes a long ways, even if its only skin deep.

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            • Pudgey51
              Fat kid approved!
              • Feb 2005
              • 368

              #7
              im guessing the guy u didnt know who offered his opinion was on the opposite team? if so, i kinda see it as guys in the gym. ur doing ur workout, u know what ur doing but still the bean pole doing curls in front of the mirror walks over and tells u to do ur workout this way when what ur doing is right and works. i just shrug it off thank him for his opinion and let him go away. u know how to play, u know what was going on, but im getting the feeling this guy just wanted to help out maybe. i understand the frustration after losing three in a row but id say shrug it off and paint him up next round

              long and short, dont beat urself up, u didnt say anything to ud regret just gave him the evil eye...

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              • Loneassassin
                Registered User
                • Dec 2009
                • 186

                #8
                Originally posted by Pudgey51
                im guessing the guy u didnt know who offered his opinion was on the opposite team? if so, i kinda see it as guys in the gym. ur doing ur workout, u know what ur doing but still the bean pole doing curls in front of the mirror walks over and tells u to do ur workout this way when what ur doing is right and works. i just shrug it off thank him for his opinion and let him go away. u know how to play, u know what was going on, but im getting the feeling this guy just wanted to help out maybe. i understand the frustration after losing three in a row but id say shrug it off and paint him up next round

                long and short, dont beat urself up, u didnt say anything to ud regret just gave him the evil eye...
                Yes, that's exactly how I took it, lol - he didn't tell me anything I didn't already know. And I would have painted him up, but the next couple of games we switched up teams and we were on the same team, then he left shortly after.

                However, when I switched to my pump gun he did criticize my use of a Winchester 50 rd. hopper, citing that he felt no reason not to use his Rotor on his pump; that he had no trouble snapshooting with the extra weight. Overall, I just feel the guy had a need to affirm his knowledge and opinions a little too hard.

                But as some of you have suggested, it would be the best approach to just smile, nod, and thank people like that for the advice - and then completely disregard them. Sometimes that's hard for me to do, lol.

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                • Pudgey51
                  Fat kid approved!
                  • Feb 2005
                  • 368

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Loneassassin

                  However, when I switched to my pump gun he did criticize my use of a Winchester 50 rd. hopper, citing that he felt no reason not to use his Rotor on his pump; that he had no trouble snapshooting with the extra weight. Overall, I just feel the guy had a need to affirm his knowledge and opinions a little too hard..

                  yeah now he just elevated his status to PITA...hes just one of those guys that needs to assert his skills to everyone....u did good brother...just carry on and show him whats what next time

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                  • Ando
                    Magusmaximus
                    • Jun 2009
                    • 4144

                    #10
                    I would have just held up my marker and said "older then you...move along" I would have definably been the A-Hole that day.
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                    • behemoth
                      SVSTC?
                      • Nov 2002
                      • 7750

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Loneassassin
                      That's probably right. And yes, after 18 years, I feel I'm a pretty good player. One thing I left out was that this guy was making other little comments all day; "know-it-all" types of comments. It kind of rubs me the wrong way...
                      Ah, that makes things a little different.

                      Kids will be kids...
                      Last edited by behemoth; 08-21-2011, 02:08 PM.

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                      • zondo
                        One of 8 bosses... again.

                        • Dec 2006
                        • 2245

                        #12
                        Reading your post, I can empathize with your frustration.

                        Two things:
                        1) You and the guy don't know each other. You can't joke with someone you don't know and giving advice to someone you don't know can come off snobby.

                        2) No one likes getting advice right after getting smoked in a game... especially by the other team.

                        He'll learn.

                        Originally posted by Ando
                        I would have just held up my marker and said "older then you...move along" I would have definably been the A-Hole that day.
                        And if he didn't walk away, there would have been a heart punch involved.
                        Stay Classy, AO...
                        BEO: RIP / Topgun Paintball: RIP / Old MCB: RIP

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                        • leloup
                          Mag Addicted
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 634

                          #13
                          I've had people flat out order me to go some where or do something in large games before, and I feel your pain. I ignore and do my own thing with my group. If you don't even acknowledge that they are there, they'll get the hint eventually. When they talk, you talk over them to your buddies.

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                          • BigEvil
                            www.BigEvilOnline.com

                            • Feb 2005
                            • 9333

                            #14
                            Originally posted by zondo
                            Reading your post, I can empathize with your frustration.

                            Two things:
                            1) You and the guy don't know each other. You can't joke with someone you don't know and giving advice to someone you don't know can come off snobby.

                            2) No one likes getting advice right after getting smoked in a game... especially by the other team.

                            He'll learn.



                            And if he didn't walk away, there would have been a heart punch involved.

                            Or, the double-middle fingers followed by the kick to the gut and Stone Cold Stunner.

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                            • Tropical Life
                              Classic's Do it Better!

                              • Nov 2010
                              • 498

                              #15
                              MY pet peeve is the bystanders in a game telling you what to do during a game and giving away your position. Besides that you can say what you want I will just want to shoot you even more.

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