AO: We are back from the dead... again! After an 18 day outage, we are finally alive and well. Who knew how complicated updating software/databases from 2008 would be. I still have alot of tweaks to make, but my main goal was getting everything patched and updated to 2026.
Vbulletin 6 has changed alot since 2008 so we will have a ton of new features to dig into.
In my opinion, not knowing the resources you have at your disposal here is how I would list them in order of complexity:
1. Hyperframe > pros: already designed and tested, works
> cons: not in current productions (get one used), not the fastest stock board (complicates matters if you want faster)
2. Pneuframe > pros: can be built in almost any frame that will fit a mag with a bit of dremel work (I have done the Eblade and a shcoker frame)
> cons: still mech so not as fast as electro, no modes. Dremel and drill work required to make (unless you buy one pre-made)
3. Electro pneumatic > Pros: same as the pneu just add a board and solenoid to drive the piston. many modes
>cons: more parts to get, more complex to build at home
4. Electronic claper sear frame. > Pros: fast, modes, no extra air lines,regs or pistons
> cons: more machining to get everithing aligned properly. Not all frames can fit the clapper.
So in my opinion, if you want to do this quick and painless buy a hyperframe or any pre made frame from the BST.
If you want more economical and have some basic modding tools then pneuframe is te easiest to start with, and can be converted to EP later.
Well thought out.
I agree with the changing from one version of a frame mod to another. The jump from pneu-to-EP really is simple, just takes some more planing as mentioned.
If you can plan out the pneumatic version and get it working, the EP is only a solenoid, board and battery away from conversion.
I want to be clear in my opinion, when I say that the DIY is not the same as a manufactured modded frame. I didnt build the VER out of thin air. YEARS of proto-typing and testing went into that frame..... YEARS.
I made 3 VER proto-types, and 2 more other versions before that.
All at $700 a pop. Manufacturing a good product is expensive.
What you can build in your basement can provide you with just as good results, with far less cash out the pocket.
In my opinion, not knowing the resources you have at your disposal here is how I would list them in order of complexity:
1. Hyperframe > pros: already designed and tested, works
> cons: not in current productions (get one used), not the fastest stock board (complicates matters if you want faster)
2. Pneuframe > pros: can be built in almost any frame that will fit a mag with a bit of dremel work (I have done the Eblade and a shcoker frame)
> cons: still mech so not as fast as electro, no modes. Dremel and drill work required to make (unless you buy one pre-made)
3. Electro pneumatic > Pros: same as the pneu just add a board and solenoid to drive the piston. many modes
>cons: more parts to get, more complex to build at home
4. Electronic claper sear frame. > Pros: fast, modes, no extra air lines,regs or pistons
> cons: more machining to get everithing aligned properly. Not all frames can fit the clapper.
So in my opinion, if you want to do this quick and painless buy a hyperframe or any pre made frame from the BST.
If you want more economical and have some basic modding tools then pneuframe is te easiest to start with, and can be converted to EP later.
That's exactly what I was going to say. I have several of those frames (penu, e-pneu, pure electro) and if you want to save yourself from the hassle and just get your Mag ripping really, really fast, buy a VER frame and be happy. I believe P8nt still have a couple of them for sale, brand new.
As for the mentioned longer trigger pull, that's the easiest thing to fix. Just buy a longer trigger adjusting bolt and you are done.
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