Zodiac Renegade Review: This AO'er Loves the ZR-1

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  • stevewar
    Mag Tinkererse
    • Sep 2007
    • 281

    #1

    Zodiac Renegade Review: This AO'er Loves the ZR-1

    Let me start of this "review" with a little bit of history. First, I love Mags. In fact, I have played with many guns, but have only ever purchased Mags.

    Second, I'm one of the OCD people who has to research the crap out of something before I make a purchase. I rarely buy anything because of a recommendation, and I NEVER purchase site unseen.

    That's what make the story of how I got a Zodiac Paintball ZR-1 almost unbelievable.

    When Scoot (BigEvil) created the purchase group post for this gun, the only thing I knew was that he was impressed, and that Chris Cole was behind it. I pulled the trigger and picked up a dust black ZR-1 and Ninja tank with the SMP reg designed for this gun.

    Let me tell you, forget about the fact that Zodiac is an upstart. You can put this thing up against any Dye, Bob Long, or anything else and it will hold its' own!

    I'm not going to go into the features and functions, you can see those in videos etc.

    The first thing I noticed when taking the ZR1 out of it's case is that the machining is fantastic. When you thread the barrel back into the body, it has a very crisp and solid feel. When you thread the tip onto the barrel back, the oring clearly makes a very tight seal. I unscrewed the foregrip, and again the threading is solid, and crisp.

    The trigger guard is much wider than any other gun I've played with. I actually really like this design, particularly if you play with gloves. The grip wraps around the front of the handle, and the ergonomics are perfect for me, with the trigger landing directly between the 2nd knuckle on my pointer and middle fingers while holding the handle with a full grip.

    One feature that I like is that the LPR adjustment has a set screw, and there are notches drilled around the back of the LPR which means you can adjust the lpr 1 "click" at a time.

    I have read in a couple of forums that the gun should come with an on/off ASA. I will tell you right now that there is 0 need for an on/off on this gun. My 2 year old could easily unscrew the tank while under pressure, and the degass noise is very very minimal.

    I hooked up my pinokio loader with the 400 round nose cone, and the clamping feedneck that comes with the gun held it snugly in place. One thing that I did notice was that the feedneck wasn't tightened quite enough onto the feed tube, but that was easilly remedied.

    Shooting the gun is a real pleasure. The trigger design is fantastic, and walking in semi mode is a breeze. I even tought my neighbor who had never played paintball how to do it. I did find the debounce needed some adjustment as I got a couple of phantom shots. I'm going to ask Chris what his thoughts are on ths issue.

    As far as the purchase process goes, dealing with Zodiac is a pleasure. Their ecommerce system isn't setup yet, and we did everything by facebook, email, and telephone. Chris Cole and Kenneth Hefferle have been super responsive, and they want to ensure you have the best experience possible. Chris just sent me an invoice to my paypal, and shipped the gun off. When I put the payment through, he already had the tracking number!

    To sum it up, trust me, you want one of these!
  • BigEvil
    www.BigEvilOnline.com

    • Feb 2005
    • 9333

    #2
    Im seriously thinking about getting a second............


    Great review. Couldnt have said it better.

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    • dahoeb
      Registered User

      • Jul 2004
      • 862

      #3
      i checked out the website, couldn't find a price. How much do they go for?

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      • stevewar
        Mag Tinkererse
        • Sep 2007
        • 281

        #4
        Originally posted by dahoeb
        i checked out the website, couldn't find a price. How much do they go for?
        Yeah, Chris is working on getting the site running, but I guess his web devloper isn't quite fast enough. The gun retails for $1179, and is worth every penny. Zodiac also has a relationship with a really good ano guy. I dunno if they'll continue to do this in the future, but they were letting people get a custom ano job for an additional cost.

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        • insixdays777
          Long Live AGD
          • Mar 2004
          • 857

          #5
          I am excited to get mine. Spoke to cole a few days ago. Mine is heading off for anno.

          I hope its a smooth shooter as everyone says it is. It will be fun to compare this to my luxe and clone.

          Its always great when you can deal direct with the owner.

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          • stevewar
            Mag Tinkererse
            • Sep 2007
            • 281

            #6
            Originally posted by insixdays777
            I am excited to get mine. Spoke to cole a few days ago. Mine is heading off for anno.

            I hope its a smooth shooter as everyone says it is. It will be fun to compare this to my luxe and clone.

            Its always great when you can deal direct with the owner.
            I think you'll find it compares nicely with the lux. super smooth, but better efficiency.

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            • BigEvil
              www.BigEvilOnline.com

              • Feb 2005
              • 9333

              #7
              Played with my personal gun for the second time a bit this weekend at West Point. (I was only there for Saturday). The first time I used it was up in NH at Reaperball III with SSP and the gang. I had been using one of Heff's personal guns that he loaned me up until then. How many people would just 'leave' one of their guns with you?

              Up in NH, the gun shot 1 year old All Star paint like I had just come off the truck from the factory. We played a few "Anything goes" speedball games... and I set my gun to 25bps PSP ramping... just to see what it can do.. and OMG did it rip.

              While there are plenty of uber fast guns out there (I own plenty), there are few that you can so easily sight and hold on target while unleashing 25bps on someone in psp mode. There was more than one occation where someone would stick their head up, and would end up with 10 in their goggles from me. I would be lucky if I could keep my Xmag on target like that for 2 or 3 shots.

              At West Point, I had the displeasure of using the Evil paint. I dont think I found 2 of those damn things the same size. One would be in the .670 range and roll right out of the barrel, then others would vary all over the place up t0 .690. With a .688 Shiv kit back, I was getting barrel breaks. One ball would litterally hit another on the way out, probably due to the drastic difference in size and drag on the barrel. I switched out to the .691 back and didnt break another ball all day.

              Even with the crappy paint, I was still able to make impressive shot from distance. Guys would pop their heads out from small openings in brush or from behind rocks and I would be able to pick them off at will. Even Doobie was commenting on how he wouldnt have even tried some of the shots he was taking using the ZR1 with his Egos.

              My only issue was that I had some slight FSDO with the gun after I would let it sit. Anyone who owns a Shocker knows all too well what Im talking about. However, unlike a shocker there was a very simple remedy for it. A quick chat with Chris Cole and he said to raise the lpr by 'one click' - which I did, and which fixed the problem.

              I also had the pleasure to meet up again with Heff at West Point on Saturday where him and his brother had a Zodiac booth set up. I was able to pick up my Shiv kit there from them. So now my ZR1 has .681, .684, .688 and .691 matching barrel backs, all with the rubber "Z" logo grip on them.

              I was able to get a close up look at the two camo ZR1s that they had made and let me say that the pictures do NOT do them justice at all.

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              • Loguzzzzzz
                Practice Target

                • Sep 2004
                • 2121

                #8
                Mine is due to arrive Thursday (tomorrow) and I can't wait. I have the Ninja SMP in hand just wating for the ZR1. Next purchase will be a new loader, the plan is to get a Prophecy Z2. This should be FUN!
                ......You know you want one!!

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                • stevewar
                  Mag Tinkererse
                  • Sep 2007
                  • 281

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Loguzzzzzz
                  Mine is due to arrive Thursday (tomorrow) and I can't wait. I have the Ninja SMP in hand just wating for the ZR1. Next purchase will be a new loader, the plan is to get a Prophecy Z2. This should be FUN!
                  It's worth the wait. I use a pinokio, and am goofing around with my qloader for fun. Gonna hold off buying a new loader until the cypher comes out.

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                  • sithos
                    Human Bunker
                    • Oct 2002
                    • 543

                    #10
                    Mine Shoots real nice.

                    Factory anno sucks however. The gloss blue on my barrel back is totally worn off after only attaching the two halves of the barrel 3 times, and there was a knick in the back of my frame when I got it.

                    I plan on having the gloss parts redone eventually anyway since blue wasn't my color preference.

                    I plan on actually using it for the first time this weekend, but I've been shooting up old paint out behind the shop and I've got a feeling I'll be very happy with it. Not quite as smooth as the quest was, and its not really that quiet either, but its very consistent and points well, so its easy to snap with.
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                    • Dirge
                      BIGEVILONLINE

                      • May 2004
                      • 500

                      #11
                      Great review

                      I love mine. Dose everything I want a marker to do.

                      The customer service is excellent! They take care of their customer base the way very few do these days.
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                      • bound for glory
                        retired bootboy
                        • Sep 2004
                        • 368

                        #12
                        i say this as a person with a well paying job: that price is retarded in this economy. i just bought an ak74(a real ak74) for $535.

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                        • stevewar
                          Mag Tinkererse
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 281

                          #13
                          Originally posted by bound for glory
                          i say this as a person with a well paying job: that price is retarded in this economy. i just bought an ak74(a real ak74) for $535.
                          I say this as a person with the same. Save your opinions until you shoot the gun. IT compares favorably with other markers of similar and higher prices.

                          I paid more than 535 for my Glock 31. IS that retarded too?
                          Last edited by stevewar; 10-20-2011, 10:40 PM.

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                          • BigEvil
                            www.BigEvilOnline.com

                            • Feb 2005
                            • 9333

                            #14
                            Originally posted by sithos
                            Mine Shoots real nice.

                            Factory anno sucks however. The gloss blue on my barrel back is totally worn off after only attaching the two halves of the barrel 3 times, and there was a knick in the back of my frame when I got it.

                            I plan on having the gloss parts redone eventually anyway since blue wasn't my color preference.

                            I plan on actually using it for the first time this weekend, but I've been shooting up old paint out behind the shop and I've got a feeling I'll be very happy with it. Not quite as smooth as the quest was, and its not really that quiet either, but its very consistent and points well, so its easy to snap with.

                            I would ***** to Heff and Cole about the anno.

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                            • bound for glory
                              retired bootboy
                              • Sep 2004
                              • 368

                              #15
                              nope. the glock is an impotant investment the way things are going. and my opinion is just as valid as anyones. now buy a good assult rifle and a shotgun, and you'll be set. i have the ak74, an ar15, a sweet browning hi power and a mossburg 500. sorry for the hijack.

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