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  • Patron God of Pirates
    ~pgop1.0
    • Apr 2002
    • 1196

    #1

    If money were no object

    Hello AO, long time no type.

    I'm not sure if this belongs in buy/sell/trade or here.

    Once again I've been away from paintball for some time. The purpose of this thread is to explore the possibility and cost of building my dream MAG. Over the years I've owned and shot; classic RT, RT Pro, PnueMag RT Pro, Z-Gripped/Z-Boddied Classic, E-Mag, and virtually every combination in between. So I have a good sense of what I like.

    The title of this thread is "If money were no object" because putting my idea together may involve a good bit of custom, one off work. So my question here is who do I need to talk to and how much will it cost to get all of the following done for me?

    Valve:
    X-Valve (easy enough)

    Frame:
    Pneumatic Z-Equivalent
    I prefer a Z-angled frame with a smoother look, but will settle for a standard Z if the price is too outrageous. Internal LPR is also preferable. I don't care about the tournament/field legality of the set up. From my perspective all my local fields have turned into institutions of wink and nod cheating anyway.

    Body:
    Warp left breach. Sleek looking. Cut to fit the Galactic Z-Body backspin device (!)(?). Said device (or equivalent) installed. I have not even begun to explore what might go into a thing like that.

    Rail:
    Just need to look good with the body and able to accept a Q-Loader under barrel setup.

    Barrel:
    Long with large ID to accommodate back spin effect.

    ForeGrip:
    None.

    ASA/Drop:
    Offset 2" left 45 degree up angle.

    It is my absolute preference to source this entire project to someone with the experience and reputation to get it done. Money is an object but I have no expectation that this will be cheap either.

    Thanks in advance for any help / advice you can provide.
  • kcombs9
    Registered User
    • Sep 2006
    • 908

    #2
    IMO for you're body.

    get a Freak kit with Apex tip front and Apex2.

    can do paint to barrel match and turn on/off back spin and even turn backspin for around the side shots.

    I think you would be much happier with this and cost less then making custom body.

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    • C_losjoker
      Puro Tico
      • May 2008
      • 1121

      #3
      I don't think I have seen a zgrip pneumag, but that would be cool.

      I think for the rail, well the whole thing really. Your best would luke, lugzzzz, or maybe tuna too.

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      • Biscuit451
        Registered User
        • Feb 2012
        • 23

        #4
        Loguzzzzz has done a z frame pneu. I think he even had the LPR in the frame.

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        • Carnage reigns
          New Age Mag Man
          • Apr 2007
          • 787

          #5
          This is the first one

          X-Valve

          Dallara with Sub-Zero feedneck

          Thrasher rail

          Stik Grip

          Chimera w/ Splinter trigger

          Bob Long Gear Drive asa
          Last edited by Carnage reigns; 04-01-2012, 04:57 PM.
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          • Loguzzzzzz
            Practice Target

            • Sep 2004
            • 2121

            #6
            Yeah, I build them. Here are a few samples.

            My Personal primary shooter!



            Here is a Cripple Z I did, these are progress shots.



            Another Z grip for an AO member.



            This is the last Z gripped pneumag I built.




            Here is a small sample of my work AO - MOTM Winners

            Feel free to poke around all my photbucket albums to see what I have done in the past. These are all guns that I have built.
            ......You know you want one!!

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            • C_losjoker
              Puro Tico
              • May 2008
              • 1121

              #7


              just wow, those are freaking sweet, wish i could get my hands on one of those cripple.

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              • sQuidvision
                Learning Mag-Fu

                • Jun 2011
                • 823

                #8
                I know someone had one up for sale on MCB not too long ago... Not sure if it sold though.

                Edit: her'yar... Kinda steep price though!

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                • Patron God of Pirates
                  ~pgop1.0
                  • Apr 2002
                  • 1196

                  #9
                  OK Loguzzzzzz, you've certainly got my attention. Any interest in taking on my entire project? If so PM me with an estimate and we can start the conversation. Thanks in advance.

                  -Patron

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                  • kwik175
                    Registered User

                    • May 2010
                    • 499

                    #10
                    Loguzzzzz is definitely the way to go. I have 1 pnuemag conversion project from him, one airwalk frame w/ sleeper mod that was his, and a Z project nearing completion. Best way to get a quality project done right.
                    Thanks,
                    Jeremy

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                    • GoatBoy
                      Junior Mint
                      • Jun 2003
                      • 1399

                      #11
                      Do us all a favor... do NOT put the q-loader under the barrel.
                      "Accuracy by aiming."


                      Definitely not on the A-Team.

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                      • Patron God of Pirates
                        ~pgop1.0
                        • Apr 2002
                        • 1196

                        #12
                        Originally posted by GoatBoy
                        Do us all a favor... do NOT put the q-loader under the barrel.
                        Why?

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                        • GoatBoy
                          Junior Mint
                          • Jun 2003
                          • 1399

                          #13
                          Originally posted by pgop2.0
                          Why?
                          Because it's a bad position for it.
                          1. increases your side profile
                          2. makes the gun VERY front heavy and harder to manipulate
                          3. forces you to reach way forward for a reload
                          4. mounting can wind up being inflexible depending on your setup (mounting it on your foregrip?)


                          You will be most effective if you mount the q-loader like a warp and play warp style. Use a warp plate + CMS.

                          Is there a way to embed videos on here? Great.



                          "Accuracy by aiming."


                          Definitely not on the A-Team.

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                          • Patron God of Pirates
                            ~pgop1.0
                            • Apr 2002
                            • 1196

                            #14
                            Thank you. You just talked me out of that configuration. The set up in those videos looks great. Now I'll need to add a fore grip of some kind to my wishlist.

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                            • Carnage reigns
                              New Age Mag Man
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 787

                              #15
                              Maybe it's just my opinion but if you run that set up u might as well invest in a t2w and a remote line because shootinh left handed is outta the question.
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