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  • TimmyJay
    I came to play...not talk
    • May 2007
    • 779

    #1

    Anyone ever do this to their valve?

    I had a thought awhile back that has probably been posted here in the past. I am sure there is a safety issue doing this mod. However, it doesn't seem any less safe than the cap'd valve.

    NEW photos of progress:









    Let me know your thoughts. Maybe there is a better way to get the same weight loss/ compaction results and maintain safety.
    Last edited by TimmyJay; 08-09-2012, 05:29 PM.
  • Drix
    New Hampshire Indoor PB
    • Jul 2008
    • 552

    #2
    It looks like you are trying to remove the regulator from the setup, which has been done before, you're going about it all complicated, unless I've missed your point.

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    • TimmyJay
      I came to play...not talk
      • May 2007
      • 779

      #3
      Yes, I removed my reg on one on my mags using the Cap. However, the cap adds weight and rear length. I would like to remove the female threaded part of the valve. Basically shorten the back section by another 1/2 inch or so. 1/4 inch cap and 1/4 threaded portion if that make sense.
      Last edited by TimmyJay; 07-16-2012, 06:32 PM.

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      • dboggs79
        Registered User
        • Jun 2010
        • 467

        #4
        I've had this exact thought in mind for awhile. I came to the conclusion that I was gonna intersect the air passages through the field strip screw hole though. Getting a drill that small of a diameter to drill properly at that angle and through stainless would not be easy.

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        • magfan
          Registered User
          • Apr 2012
          • 40

          #5
          Apparently AO is very concerned with weight.

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          • FOOGLEMAN
            Registered User
            • Jul 2011
            • 40

            #6
            Originally posted by magfan
            Apparently AO is very concerned with weight.

            The first thing people say when the see I'm running a Mag: "Isn't that thing heavy?"

            I don't know many people outside AO that consider AGD products "Light-weight"

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            • GoatBoy
              Junior Mint
              • Jun 2003
              • 1399

              #7
              Isn't this kind of a permanent mod?
              "Accuracy by aiming."


              Definitely not on the A-Team.

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              • TimmyJay
                I came to play...not talk
                • May 2007
                • 779

                #8
                Yes, but being that classic valves sell for about $40-60. I would be willing to give it a go to see how compact the valve can get.

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                • Deus Machina
                  Registered User
                  • Mar 2011
                  • 10

                  #9
                  Originally posted by dboggs79
                  I've had this exact thought in mind for awhile. I came to the conclusion that I was gonna intersect the air passages through the field strip screw hole though. Getting a drill that small of a diameter to drill properly at that angle and through stainless would not be easy.
                  He contacted me, and this is my exact thought and worry.

                  My idea: find the biggest tap I could fit down the threads without buggering them, probably #6-32 or even #4-40, drill through, tap the resulting hole in the bottom, and loctite.

                  The valves seem to be a more agreeable stainless than I've used, which is great, but a .1" drill with so much extended would still such... I'm doing some measuring to try and figure that out.

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                  • OPBN
                    OldPBNoob

                    • Sep 2008
                    • 5240

                    #10
                    I Pmd DM on this on MCB, but are we attacking this the wrong way? Would it be easier to just mill a classic style valve body out of aluminum?
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                    • cougar20th
                      Registered User

                      • Sep 2002
                      • 2330

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Deus Machina
                      He contacted me, and this is my exact thought and worry.

                      My idea: find the biggest tap I could fit down the threads without buggering them, probably #6-32 or even #4-40, drill through, tap the resulting hole in the bottom, and loctite.

                      The valves seem to be a more agreeable stainless than I've used, which is great, but a .1" drill with so much extended would still such... I'm doing some measuring to try and figure that out.
                      My solution to the small drill bit issue.
                      Drill the valve/frame/rail for the larger RT banjo. You dont need the banjo for sealing you only need if for its size (diameter). Then you have all sorts of room to drill and tap a decent size air passage between the air ports in the valve. And getting a biger set screw up there. The banjo is also hollow so you may be able to use it to help "hide" the plug that is up in the field strip screw hole.
                      Originally posted by dano_____
                      I keep forgetting to not feed my mags after midnight so they seem to multiply regularly.

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                      • OPBN
                        OldPBNoob

                        • Sep 2008
                        • 5240

                        #12
                        For that matter, it doesnt even have to be a Banjo, just a simliar sized bolt right? As long as you used a simliar sized bolt, you could still use the same bushing.
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                        • magfan
                          Registered User
                          • Apr 2012
                          • 40

                          #13
                          Originally posted by FOOGLEMAN
                          The first thing people say when the see I'm running a Mag: "Isn't that thing heavy?"

                          I don't know many people outside AO that consider AGD products "Light-weight"
                          I've never been concerned with weight. My setup weighs about 6lbs, full hopper. Never bothered me.

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                          • TimmyJay
                            I came to play...not talk
                            • May 2007
                            • 779

                            #14
                            Originally posted by OPBN
                            I Pmd DM on this on MCB, but are we attacking this the wrong way? Would it be easier to just mill a classic style valve body out of aluminum?
                            I would love to see this as well. with a smaller air chamber to boot.

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                            • splat15k
                              The Beast from the East

                              • Oct 2001
                              • 1227

                              #15
                              Originally posted by TimmyJay
                              I would love to see this as well. with a smaller air chamber to boot.
                              Agreed!!
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