The "NEW DEAL" on how to bring Automag back to the masses.

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  • stimpysan
    Registered User
    • May 2011
    • 239

    #16
    The problem is that most people aren't geared to be mag owners. They want an off the shelf, ready to go, easily programmable marker. Back in the 90's when you either owned a mag or a cocker you had to tinker with your gun to get it dialed in to the way you wanted it. You actually had to practice and learn how to shoot your gun fast. Now all you have to do is program a gun and your ready to go.

    The only way I ever see mags making a come back is to have a no battery division. No electronic frames, hoppers, pneumags or Rt'ing guns. The most fun I ever had playing was back then. When the Angel LED came out it changed paintball forever. It changed from a sport of skill to whom ever had the most money to keep up with the technology.

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    • behemoth
      SVSTC?
      • Nov 2002
      • 7750

      #17
      Originally posted by rkjunior303
      You're about 9 years too late, boss.
      Even then...

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      • skipdogg
        OG & HNIC
        • Nov 2000
        • 1392

        #18
        I believe the PALS league in Asia has a mech only tournament division. That would be the place to focus marketing activities. If AGD had marketing. Which they don't.
        Chris Rahel with NCPA was trying to get a limited paint division going in PSP last year. Didnt take, but that idea would be suitable for mechs.
        UWL league has position specific specifications, that incorporate different marker types. These are all examples of things AGD could be knee deep in. But they arnt. If they cant capitalize on work others have already done for them, they certainly arnt going to reinvent the wheel on their own.
        OLD AO FEEDBACK

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        • maniacmechanic
          PrestonCoPaintball
          • Aug 2006
          • 3453

          #19
          I been thinkin about this ,, the 1st thing we have to realize is AGD is really a niche / cult market ( at this point in time ) ,
          2nd I don't think Mr Roman has made a lot with AGD & I don't think he has a couple million in the bank for R & D & advertising
          3rd ( refer back to #1 ) I shoot Mag's & AKA's because I like them & ya know what ? the kids with the 12 egos & 13 geos they all FEAR me

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          • Frizzle Fry
            AO Micromag Guy
            • Mar 2009
            • 3280

            #20
            Originally posted by stimpysan
            The problem is that most people aren't geared to be mag owners. They want an off the shelf, ready to go, easily programmable marker. Back in the 90's when you either owned a mag or a cocker you had to tinker with your gun to get it dialed in to the way you wanted it. You actually had to practice and learn how to shoot your gun fast. Now all you have to do is program a gun and your ready to go.

            The only way I ever see mags making a come back is to have a no battery division. No electronic frames, hoppers, pneumags or Rt'ing guns. The most fun I ever had playing was back then. When the Angel LED came out it changed paintball forever. It changed from a sport of skill to whom ever had the most money to keep up with the technology.
            I agree with the latter, but disagree with the former.

            I put 800psi into an R/T Pro six years ago and tuned it up and chrono'ed to 285. I aired it up after a few years sitting in the closet and found it shot 285 +/-2 with a tank putting out 800psi. Automags are kind of set-it-and-forget it as long as you feed a it a little oil here and there, just use the same tank output. At the most you might need to adjust the regulator, and frankly it's more straight forward than an inline regulator foregrip.

            Back in the day you tinkered, now you'd just bring it to a pro-shop and get it set up, then leave it be... You want to talk tinkering, I tech'ed a $600 Etek at the field and found PAINT inside the HPR and a chipped ram sleeve, the other day I met a guy whose $500 AXE was literally useless because he took a dive and bumped his tank which snapped off an internal piece connected to his rail-mount ASA.

            A $450 factory tuned R/T Pro with an updated trigger system (I'm thinking a spring similar to the AutoResponse but with a milled stop so it doesn't "respond" and stops in the trigger) or a ULT would definitely have a place on the field... We just need to be rid of ramping once and for all.

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            • Tropical Life
              Classic's Do it Better!

              • Nov 2010
              • 498

              #21
              Let's put down the paintball guns and make AGD a motorcycle club! We will have chapters up ASAP!

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              • Ando
                Magusmaximus
                • Jun 2009
                • 4144

                #22
                Originally posted by Tropical Life
                Let's put down the paintball guns and make AGD a motorcycle club! We will have chapters up ASAP!
                and totally redeem yourself!!!
                My Feedback

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                • Tropical Life
                  Classic's Do it Better!

                  • Nov 2010
                  • 498

                  #23

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                  • Frizzle Fry
                    AO Micromag Guy
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 3280

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Tropical Life
                    Let's put down the paintball guns and make AGD a motorcycle club! We will have chapters up ASAP!
                    Pretty sure ICD already did that when Smart Parts spanked them.

                    Could we be a book club?

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                    • sQuidvision
                      Learning Mag-Fu

                      • Jun 2011
                      • 823

                      #25
                      My vote is for knitting...

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                      • Frizzle Fry
                        AO Micromag Guy
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 3280

                        #26
                        Originally posted by sQuidvision
                        My vote is for knitting...
                        $5 and one E-Cookie to the guy who hacks AO so the main page and banners say "Automag Knitting Circle Version 1.0"

                        /is it against the rules to actively attempt to destabilize AO?

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                        • kcombs9
                          Registered User
                          • Sep 2006
                          • 908

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Frizzle Fry
                          $5 and one E-Cookie to the guy who hacks AO so the main page and banners say "Automag Knitting Circle Version 1.0"

                          /is it against the rules to actively attempt to destabilize AO?
                          this made me ROFL cause I am doing a AGD logo on shrinkie dink

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                          • Tropical Life
                            Classic's Do it Better!

                            • Nov 2010
                            • 498

                            #28
                            Originally posted by kcombs9
                            this made me ROFL cause I am doing a AGD logo on shrinkie dink


                            I honestly think AGD has been in a great place and will remain one of the Titans in this industry.

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