Disgusted?

[OPBN]

Like I said, it's not everywhere every time, but I've seen my local school system flirt with accreditation for about a decade and while only about 5% of the budget goes to athletics, the athletic fund raising seems to CRUSH any fundraising for the library or computer lab or classroom funds to buy the basics (desks, chairs, whiteboards) and the school keeps getting screwed for not having those things.

I might also add that we have a K-12 school building that is only 5 years old and our communities portion was funded by a self imposed levy. All of our classrooms have computer centers and other up to date equipment. There is very little our school is lacking and we constantly score very well on our rankings. We're also a very blue collar/agricultural based community that realizes the value of hard work and a good education for our kids. But now we are way off topic.

[Frizzle Fry]

But now we are way off topic.

Welcome to AO

I hope we find out this guy owned a Prius and lived off Tofu and Qinua... Maybe they can link that to being a nutcase.

[OPBN]

Welcome to AO

I hope we find out this guy owned a Prius and lived off Tofu and Qinua... Maybe they can link that to being a nutcase.

I'm surprised the right hasn't linked his being a scientist (and therefore an atheist) to his lack of morality.

[Frizzle Fry]

I'm surprised the right hasn't linked his being a scientist (and therefore an atheist) to his lack of morality.

...would that make him a "mad scientist"?

[Dayspring]

I like this part. Really, on youtube you could only find a couple dozen video's of how paintballers can use smoke bombs? Compare that to the number of other paintball videos to see how useful/popular smoke is. The 4th of July just past, how do we know they weren't sold at a fire works stand? Maybe the 4th of july is Just to violent.

Cuz Airsoft that uses guns that are replicas of actual firearms and the tactics are much more oriented to military "play" doesn't factor into this at all...

[Swampy]

It is disgusting that a media outlet plays the blame game to roll that responsibilty on to someone else. I've seen it before and it will happen again, not just in the sport of paintball. Honestly who knows that watching movies may teach you real world military tactics

[saintnoir]

Why blame paintball that's easy its not a popular activity.The concept that people have always and will always go "amok" is really really scary lets blame the thing that we dont do it wont affect me and i feel all better about it.

[mostpeople]

most people are too smart to deal with the drivvel that guy is writing, dont worry about it.

Your concern would be better placed on getting new people into the sport as opposed to the idiotic writings of someone who has no idea what they are talking about. 99% of Americans will never see that article, so let it die.

[Justus]

most people are too smart to deal with the drivvel that guy is writing, dont worry about it.

Your concern would be better placed on getting new people into the sport as opposed to the idiotic writings of someone who has no idea what they are talking about. 99% of Americans will never see that article, so let it die.

The article, maybe not. But it did go on air, 7/24/12. Regardless, the point is that when one person starts to point a finger, it can catch on rather quickly in a blame-happy society.

And quit referring to yourself in the third person.

[OPBN]

Maybe we're going about this the wrong way. Maybe if the rest of the people in the movie theater had played paintball they wouldnt have gotten bunkered.


Too soon?

[mostpeople]

Too soon

The real issue there is the gun laws, it is illegal to carry open or concealed firearms within Aurora Colorado. if even one of those people had been carrying, I guarantee it would have gone down differently.

While he did have body armor, hes a D-bag nerd kid who plays world of warcraft. The rounds may hit the armor, but putting fire on someone out in the open (like the front of a movie theatre) will definitely make him run, or duck and cover etc.. slowing potentially stopping his attack. Someone brought up something interesting the other day, while he did acquire the firearms legally, THERE IS ALSO A LAW AGAINST CAPITOL MURDER, BUT HE BROKE THAT ONE TOO, what makes you, or anyone, think that a law against owning guns is the one he would follow?

I went out and purchased my first firearm the day after aurora (not because of it, i was planning already), but I will be getting my CCL because of things like it.

good luck, remember police are not there the prevent crime, they are there to stop it. This guy had no priors and you will NEVER be able to stop things like this unless you allow people to carry constitutionally. They break the law anyways, they wont care about gun laws.

[maniacmechanic]

most people are too smart to deal with the drivvel that guy is writing, dont worry about it.

Your concern would be better placed on getting new people into the sport as opposed to the idiotic writings of someone who has no idea what they are talking about. 99% of Americans will never see that article, so let it die.

Total agreement on this ^^

In my opinion we don't need to be concerned about gun laws , what we need to be concerned with is JUSTICE , it should be swift and consequential , IMHO this man deserves to die and soon , no setting in a cell for a year waiting on a trial , he IS GUILTY , sentence needs to be given and imposed , I know if he had killed one of my loved ones I would be trying to figure out how to get in jail !!

[Frizzle Fry]

Too soon

The real issue there is the gun laws, it is illegal to carry open or concealed firearms within Aurora Colorado. if even one of those people had been carrying, I guarantee it would have gone down differently.

While he did have body armor, hes a D-bag nerd kid who plays world of warcraft. The rounds may hit the armor, but putting fire on someone out in the open (like the front of a movie theatre) will definitely make him run, or duck and cover etc.. slowing potentially stopping his attack. Someone brought up something interesting the other day, while he did acquire the firearms legally, THERE IS ALSO A LAW AGAINST CAPITOL MURDER, BUT HE BROKE THAT ONE TOO, what makes you, or anyone, think that a law against owning guns is the one he would follow?

I went out and purchased my first firearm the day after aurora (not because of it, i was planning already), but I will be getting my CCL because of things like it.

good luck, remember police are not there the prevent crime, they are there to stop it. This guy had no priors and you will NEVER be able to stop things like this unless you allow people to carry constitutionally. They break the law anyways, they wont care about gun laws.

[mostpeople]

Remember - none of us is as dumb as all of us. It is quite possible that the House, Senate, and Executive could all end up liberal come January. If that happens they will try to take your money and your guns. The constitution was just ripped to shreds by the SCOTUS re: Obamacare, what makes you think the second amendment is safe? The United States are in a real bind, its going to take some serious looking in the mirror to un-F'k ourselves.

I suggest all of you procure some form of self defense; mine happens to be a S&W 1911 .45, choose your poison. Bottom line is that you do not want to be victims. And do it now before you are prevented from it in the future.

Question...

Where were the police when the Trayvon Martin thing went down?
Where were the police when Aurora movie theatre got shot up?
Where were the police at Columbine HS?
Where were the police at VT?
Where were the police at the killing spree in Norway? (Another WoW player by the way)
Where were the police at xxx?

Are you going to be crying where are the police when you are being threatened, shot at or worse? Or are you going to defend yourself which is your god given right? A for some reason not obvious fact is that the police will NOT be there when the crime happens.

Don't be a victim, you know kids used to take their guns to school with them wayyy back in the day? Think about that, and how irresponsible our children are these days, as well as our piss poor parenting in America. My sympathy for all of this is about zero, sorry if thats an A-hole position to take but its a fact. Maybe the residents of Aurora will allow Concealed Carry next time?

/rant off

[Justus]

Where were the police at the killing spree in Norway? (Another WoW player by the way)

I sympathize with some of the points you're trying to make, even if I don't think they belong in the Paintball Talk thread due to the political nature. (discussion of gun control needs, and IIRC it has, its own topic; discussion of national healthcare needs its own topic; etc.) But are we the pot or kettle when we draw attention to the fact that this murderer played WoW, whilst becoming angry that a "news organization" (yes, I use that term lightly) tries to make the same type of insinuations about our sport of paintball?

My point being, there are probably plenty of people that play WoW who aren't homicidal, just like there are plenty of people who play paintball who aren't homicidal. Pulling random trivia from the case and turning it into a causation for the atrocity without any real basis is a disservice no matter what is being blamed.


Edit: By the way, I've never even seen WoW outside of those Mr. T commercials from a few years ago, so I'm not personally spurned by the link to WoW or anything - I just don't want people to think that the paintball community allows a double-standard, being that we'll attack a video game, just not our chosen sport.