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  • luke
    lukescustoms.com

    • Jan 2001
    • 8211

    #1

    Who remembers this?

    Some of the posts lately got me thinking about this so I looked it up

  • AutoFiend
    Registered User
    • Feb 2011
    • 164

    #2
    wow that takes it back

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    • knownothingmags
      RKM 3D Designs

      • Apr 2010
      • 4810

      #3
      patents
      who owns/owned that one again?
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      • Ando
        Magusmaximus
        • Jun 2009
        • 4144

        #4
        Originally posted by knownothingmags
        patents
        who owns/owned that one again?
        Thomas G. Kotsiopoulos

        Now think long and hard...Who's got the same initials?
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        • BTAutoMag
          AO's Problem Child
          • Oct 2001
          • 7199

          #5
          toby keith
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          • kcombs9
            Registered User
            • Sep 2006
            • 908

            #6
            That bottom feed hopper would be awesome!

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            • skipdogg
              OG & HNIC
              • Nov 2000
              • 1392

              #7
              on a illustrator too!!
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              • shooter311
                Registered User

                • Sep 2009
                • 313

                #8
                TK had the patent for the E-hopper? I had no idea.

                I was thinking about it, I played paintball for about 5 years with a shake and shoot hopper, how the hell did I do that? I tried out a shake and shoot the other day and could only shoot three rounds before having to violently shake the gun. Is it that guns had way more kick in the 90's (I was using Spyders and Vm68s since all I had access to way CO2 and automags don't like CO2 in Maine) which shook the hopper for me? Or was it just that ignorance was bliss, and that was part of the game??? I do remember a squeegee being a lifeline every player had on the field with them...

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                • BTAutoMag
                  AO's Problem Child
                  • Oct 2001
                  • 7199

                  #9
                  lol, i still have a tendancy to shake e hoppers and I ALWAYS carry a squegee. you can make a gun that wont chop a ball but Ive yet to see a paintball manufacturor make a ball that wont break itself
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                  • shooter311
                    Registered User

                    • Sep 2009
                    • 313

                    #10
                    Originally posted by BTAutoMag
                    lol, i still have a tendancy to shake e hoppers and I ALWAYS carry a squegee. you can make a gun that wont chop a ball but Ive yet to see a paintball manufacturor make a ball that wont break itself
                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKqpYVvhuxs

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                    • koleah
                      Registered User
                      • Jul 2005
                      • 797

                      #11
                      So does that mean Tom K has been getting a cut of every e-loader out there?

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                      • drg
                        Half-cocked
                        • Oct 2004
                        • 1112

                        #12
                        I believe that is the warp feed patent. This is the electronic agitating loader patent: http://www.google.com/patents/US5791325
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                        • SeeK
                          NCC1701-A
                          • Sep 2002
                          • 464

                          #13
                          Originally posted by shooter311
                          TK had the patent for the E-hopper? I had no idea.

                          I was thinking about it, I played paintball for about 5 years with a shake and shoot hopper, how the hell did I do that? I tried out a shake and shoot the other day and could only shoot three rounds before having to violently shake the gun. Is it that guns had way more kick in the 90's (I was using Spyders and Vm68s since all I had access to way CO2 and automags don't like CO2 in Maine) which shook the hopper for me? Or was it just that ignorance was bliss, and that was part of the game??? I do remember a squeegee being a lifeline every player had on the field with them...
                          One of the benefits of a blowback.
                          Forest Gump of paintball

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                          • rx2
                            DBAF
                            • Mar 2002
                            • 496

                            #14
                            Originally posted by koleah
                            So does that mean Tom K has been getting a cut of every e-loader out there?
                            It seems that the inclusion of the agitating hopper in the patent application is to help establish a background with which he can demonstrate the novel, and therefor patentable aspects of his force-fed system. In a way, he is saying "this is what we have, this is what I propose, and this is why they are different." It should outline that if you really read into the body of the patent (which is usually not the most exciting thing to do).

                            In other words, he didn't patent the agitating hopper here, so he isn't getting a cut.

                            Of course, I seem to remember that there were a couple of patents, including some of those pertinent to HP air, that Tom did have, but chose not to enforce. This was back when paintball was a gentlemanly pursuit, and certain individuals believed that an altruistic, open-source approach to paintball would help to grow the sport. Maybe that is a little embellished, but some of the older patents weren't really enforced, and no royalties paid/collected.
                            Last edited by rx2; 09-23-2012, 10:53 PM.
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