Do You Cheat?

[El Zilcho]

So I recently bought an Emag with AGD 1.37 and I don't have the jumper so it is semi only for me. It got me thinking about Xmod 1.8, but being a woodsball player I have no reason (within the rules) to have any other mode besides semi. That led to the question: How many people play in non-semi mode for woodsball? Just curious.

[cockerpunk]

whether you are cheating or not using different modes is up the field.

that being said, no i don't use anything other then semi in the woods, i also almost never break 10 bps in the woods.

[El Zilcho]

I assumed most fields don't allowing ramping the woods.

[KurtPB]

I must say I've never used batteries in the woods. Have always rocked a Sniper or 'Mag.

[GoatBoy]

Pump counts as non-semi, right?

Man, I'm such a cheater...

[OPBN]

I have played at several fields that basically said "run whatya brung". I do follow field rules about BPS if they have them though. I did realize a couple of years ago at LL3 I think it was that I was running my Emag on Hyper mode by mistake. Forgot my glasses in the car and set the mode by memory. Got to a point that I was unleashing on some guys in the pipe field and realized I had drained a hopper in like 10 seconds or so. Oops.

[bbotts77]

I always stick to field rules. It just works out better for everyone that way.

I almost always use a mag, but when I don't I almost never ramp with my electros. I like to make my shots count, so I don't waste so much paint.

[wimag]

Tippmann World Challenge at Hells Survivors you can shoot whatever mode you want. Woods fields. Not considered "cheating" if it is in the rules

[blackdeath1k]

Why would I want to use any mode above semi? I don't like wasting paint. So I don't want a ball to go flying unless I hit the trigger for that ball. But as stated. Some fields are run what cha brung.

Can you guys help a new old player out? What is ramping
G? All a search did was come up with a bunch of posts that had that word in it.

[SoulCoffin]

Can you guys help a new old player out? What is ramping
G? All a search did was come up with a bunch of posts that had that word in it.

ramping is a firing mode that is now pretty standard in all electros. what it does is after three shots, as long as as you keep at least a 3 ball per sec trigger pull rate, the actual firing rate will "ramp up" to 10 bps (or whatever the rate is capped at on your gun). so physically, your pulling at a rate of 3 bps, but the gun shoots at a much higher rate.

[cockerpunk]

I assumed most fields don't allowing ramping the woods.

every local field around here allows any mode up to 12 bps.

[sQuidvision]

every local field around here allows any mode up to 12 bps.

do you consider splat tag to be "around here"? i was just out there Sunday and they were enforcing semi only.

[El Zilcho]

every local field around here allows any mode up to 12 bps.

That is genuinely surprising to me, I would think that would be off-putting to renters.

[Frizzle Fry]

Can you guys help a new old player out? What is ramping
G? All a search did was come up with a bunch of posts that had that word in it.

Been around for about 12-15 years.

Basically, when you achieve a certain number of shots in a certain time period, the board adds shots.

The most common style now is such that if you manage X trigger pulls at Y pulls per second for Z seconds, your marker will fire full auto at A bps even as long as you maintain Y trigger pulls per second and don't stop shooting for over B seconds. I call this "shifting" because it doesn't really require you to "ramp up".

Earlier styles of ramping were more simple and fit the title better. If you manage 5 pulls per second, it adds one shot per second so you're firing 6bps. Make it to 7 pulls per second, it adds 2 shots per second for 9bps, etc until you hit 12.5 or 15 bps. The intervals varied by manufacturer initially, until the various leagues accepted it. Much more deserving of the title as you actually "ramp up" to the highest speed.

I'm not up on the newest versions of these modes, but as I recall...

PSP - 3 shots @ 5 pps = 12.5 bps auto + 3 added shots @ final pull / must maintain 5 pps, 1 second break

NXL - 3 shots @ 5 pps = 15 bps auto / trigger must be held down, no break

Millennium - 7 shots @ 7 pps = 15 bps auto / must maintain 7.5 pps, 0.5 second break

[bbotts77]

That is genuinely surprising to me, I would think that would be off-putting to renters.

I used to be surprised when the local fields started to allow ramping in their recball groups, because it would ruin the entire day of a renter every couple times I was out there. Then I realized that those renters weren't going through as much paint as the speedballers or the brats, whose mommy and daddy pay for as much paint as they can throw. So, the all-mighty dollar (and whining) would win that argument every time.

One of the things I love about CPX is that when there are enough players, they will run an open-beginner group for markers without batteries and an open-advanced group. This is a great way to wet the feet of the young players, who aren't quite ready to be stitched up by 12.5 bps.