Some People Never Learn

[Frizzle Fry]

Banjos fit fine on the other ones.

[going_home]

Up to page 31 now.

New problems with the newer bodies.

Banjo bolts not fitting ?

http://customcockers.com/forum/showthread.php?44242-URGENT!-FX-Cocker-Pump-Body-Kit/page30

You have to feel bad for the customers.

[Frizzle Fry]

They got their $ and couldn't care about the customer. Milking the industry for all they can before they walk away.

If they had made a single dollar on the MM2K9, that might be the case. Had it gone ideally the project would have been barely profitable. As is, it might be a wash if the remaining bodies sell and all of those actually work for the end user.

[wetwrks]

If Forest was ever going to fulfill his promises regarding the Micromag 2009, he would have done so by now.

I doubt they ever will. Frankly I think they have written off their commitments. They got their $ and couldn't care about the customer. Milking the industry for all they can before they walk away.

I looked at their preorder for the sniper bodies and thought "mmm I might be interested" then I remembered how the micromags went and thought "nope, not interested".

[going_home]

I hope you are right. There are still people owed from the mm run that have not been taken care of.
I doubt you are right.

If Forest was ever going to fulfill his promises regarding the Micromag 2009, he would have done so by now.

A vulgar phone call from one idiot is their reasoning for walking away from their obligations.

They were once, dare I say, held in as high regard by this community as Mr. Kaye is still today.

No more.


Forgiveness is easy, forgetting is not.

[wetwrks]

This will be taken care of as long as people like yourself who have no business getting involved don't show up and blow it for everyone.

I hope you are right. There are still people owed from the mm run that have not been taken care of.












I doubt you are right.

[Frizzle Fry]

& how did they actually crank this out in 3 months when ours took 3 years?

Ours did not take 3 years.

Also, as I said before, these were milled from WGP blanks rather than from scratch. That's why they were done more quickly.

Grow up; people on CC have already received replacement grips and o-rings, including myself. The order for replacement bodies body blanks have already been placed. This will be taken care of as long as people like yourself who have no business getting involved don't show up and blow it for everyone.

[WUNDERWAFFEN]

Full of BS

I am calling BS on that.

& what buisness would bail on all of its customers after a negative experience with one of them? & keep the extra $$$ it should've refunded.

& the icing on the cake is the grip panels... How can you put those on & not see what they did. Oh right who cares ship them.

They knew they were sending out junk. I am not familar with what exactly they did but to me it looks like after they originally machined the bodies they welded them & machined them again & then finished them.

I hope the customers start their paypal claims right away instead of waiting on PTP.

Have they used the military contract excuse yet?

& how did they actually crank this out in 3 months when ours took 3 years?

[Frizzle Fry]

Wow!!!

All the believers that think Tracy & PTP will correct this are delusional.

The wait will be long & the communication will just stop after they left everyone hanging.

All you have to do is read the last dozen pages of the MM2K9 thread to see how that company responded to us.

Had I known they were doing this I would of jumped in that thread, warned them & say hello to Tracy before she jumped ship AGAIN!

Tracy stopped responding after she received a phone call on her birthday from a user here who called here some very obscene things. Anybody who has played with me knows I have a foul mouth, and even I wouldn't say the kinds of things that this person did when he spoke with her. That's when and why she took a vacation from AO, it was clearly not the right response, but that was why.

I firmly believe that this will be taken care of as promised. I believe this to be the case for several reasons; for starters, the calm approach and level of maturity that Custom Cockers members have displayed in their thread so far, but also because these markers weren't machined from scratch - they're WGP bodies and there are more blanks where these came from, and adjusting the program to get them cut right will be easier than trying to troubleshoot a crowdsourced design built from scratch.

[WUNDERWAFFEN]

PTP = Poop

Wow!!!

All the believers that think Tracy & PTP will correct this are delusional.

The wait will be long & the communication will just stop after they left everyone hanging.

All you have to do is read the last dozen pages of the MM2K9 thread to see how that company responded to us.

Had I known they were doing this I would of jumped in that thread, warned them & say hello to Tracy before she jumped ship AGAIN!

[RehKal]

Paper in the box? Uhm. No box, no paper. The threads were fine, no problems or tightness when putting in any screws either. I certainly don't intend to go out and play a game with it but I'm wanting to make sure everything is ok before I send it off for anno.... that and I need to collect the parts I need. Besides all that, I'm quite familiar with working on such things... I work on stuff similar to it all the time. My only real question is... how I should get it annoed. Might just send caustic customs and say "surprise me".....

[Drix]

Well, everything fits in to my MM 2k9 ok. Waiting on the steel washer for the spring to arrive in the mail and then I'll be able to test it at least. The grip/valve are borrowed from my kartamag so I'll have to find a nice grip and valve for it at some point.

Oh god, did you not read the paper in the box? I'd be really, really worried about assembling my un-anodized marker. I'm not sure if you noticed but the threads are really, really tight, it's because the anno smoothes out the surface a bit and hardens the surface to act like a fine polishing job, I'd be leery of putting any screws in that might lead to some stripping. In a related note, I'd worry about playing with the gun as any oil or dirt accumulation could have an impact on the annoing process later.

[RehKal]

Well, everything fits in to my MM 2k9 ok. Waiting on the steel washer for the spring to arrive in the mail and then I'll be able to test it at least. The grip/valve are borrowed from my kartamag so I'll have to find a nice grip and valve for it at some point.

[need4reebs]

I apologize for the tone of my post, but I feel your logic is flawed. There is no correlation between eliminating pre-orders and improved quality control. A forum does not control the QC process of a 3rd party company. There have been many successful pre-orders before this. Like everyone has been saying, it's all about how much a company actually cares. The argument that "pre-orders" cause a lack of quality control does not hold water.

As for the negativity... you could always move on to the next (happier) thread. There have been negative threads on forums for as long as forums have existed. I think the negativity you personally feel is artificially manufactured, since you don't really have a financial stake in this matter.

well whether or not there is a correlation between eliminating pre-orders and improving quality control wasnt what i was referring to?

i didnt think i needed a financial stake in this matter to voice my opinion about pre-orders going bad? a thread that has a title "Some People Never Learn" that has people getting burned on pre-orders made me think that maybe if there were no pre-orders nobody would be getting burned?

[GoatBoy]

I apologize for the tone of my post, but I feel your logic is flawed. There is no correlation between eliminating pre-orders and improved quality control. A forum does not control the QC process of a 3rd party company. There have been many successful pre-orders before this. Like everyone has been saying, it's all about how much a company actually cares. The argument that "pre-orders" cause a lack of quality control does not hold water.

I think there is a slight difference between, "We ain't gettin' paid 'till we deliver" and "Yo! They paid us already! We got teh money!!! "

Sure, company attitude matters, but I guess I'm the kind of guy that kind of likes to, you know, go ahead and hang onto my money.