Opinions on Aluminum Screws

[El Zilcho]

Has anyone ever used these? http://www.kilaproducts.com/product....sid=62&pid=215 With all the custom anno'ed mags out there seems like someone should have. Are they any good? Do they hold up?

Also, how are the Killa detents? Any discernible difference between them and AGD detents?

[Frizzle Fry]

I'd be wary on a mag, since you're not just holding your frame on to a body.

[Nobody]

the detents are good. they are a magne detent where you have 2 detents are pushing against each other so you have positive resistance and you don't have to worry about spring tension. they are also serviceable so you can fix any problems.

[BiNumber3]

I use brass screws on one of my frames for the grip panels. I wouldn't use anything other than steel or titanium for things that will have greater stress on them

[halB]

What's the worse that could happen?

Aside from your valve rocketing through two layers of drywall, which happened that one time I was drunk and unscrewed the valve while it was still pressurized.

Because that could totally happen. Pretty sure that would kill a person.

[Cokrkilr]

I'm using an aluminum machine screw in my frame... its been in there since id say...... 03'. Its nice and polished like my mag too, and it will be ano'd when I send it in.

[Frizzle Fry]

I wouldn't use anything other than steel or titanium for things that will have greater stress on them

My thoughts exactly. I've seen terrible things happen between the valve and body.

[halB]

Rocketing. Through. Drywall.

BTW, a ton of toothpaste + spackle = your security deposit back.

[Cokrkilr]

Y'all are silly, I used an aluminum screw for my valve too, since 03' as well... I barely got a regular field strip screw maybe a month ago

The only reason I even have a field drip screw now is because I had the guy throw it in on a trade, otherwise it would still be there going on 10-11 years.

[BiNumber3]

Not saying it wouldn't work, it's just not something I'd wanna risk, I know how soft aluminum can be, and how easy it is to strip or snap.

[Frizzle Fry]

Y'all are silly, I used an aluminum screw for my valve too, since 03' as well... I barely got a regular field strip screw maybe a month ago

The only reason I even have a field drip screw now is because I had the guy throw it in on a trade, otherwise it would still be there going on 10-11 years.

That's very unsafe. There are documented issues of valves rocketing off, even destroying z-locks, when subpar hardware is used. I remember a few cases of thumbscrew mixups where the early "battery pack only" Emag thumbscrews were used for valves and snapped right off. I hope Tom will chime in about the dangers of using standard machine screws...

[GoatBoy]

How does a valve even rocket off, considering it should have been attached to something via the air fitting (braided stainless if you're using AGD stuff), and the on/off pin should have snagged on the frame/body if it was under pressure and extended?

[Cokrkilr]

How does a valve even rocket off, considering it should have been attached to something via the air fitting (braided stainless if you're using AGD stuff), and the on/off pin should have snagged on the frame/body if it was under pressure and extended?

That's what I'm sayin...

The screw I got were anodized black and I popped them through cardboard and stripped only the tops. There's zero wear on either and no deformity to the one holding the valve in.... its not like I break out the torque wrench and put em at 100lbs.

Ill mail you two small pieces of drywall to demonstrate how this happens...

When my old field strip screw broke all it did was pop the valve back about 1/8"

[Frizzle Fry]

Thank god for the z-lock.

Can anyone find the old thread where someone used the phony thumbscrew? There were pictures of the rail.

[OPBN]

I will say on one project that I have, I tried to used just a regular buttom head screw in place of the FS screw and it keeps backing out. I even tried putting one of the clear rubber washers on it, but it just keeps working its way loose. And arent the FS screws aluminum?