Empire Resurrection Opinions

[BigEvil]

Would you pay $550 for it?

I think $550 would probably be a bargain for a high end custom Mag.


..and I don't think the name "resurrection" is appropriate.. Mags never died like cockers did

[manike]

I am a machine guy, as a mechanical engineer I am amazed at machines. I love to watch a machine as it produces what ever it makes. I have sat and watched as an Italian machine had a single strand of 18k gold wire go in one end and woven gold rope chain came out the bottom. . . .simply amazing!

The Autococker is a machine, a contraption if you will. They bang and clack and then a little paintball leaves one end - I love' em! I may even have to get one!

And you are the kind of person that this was made for. Although maybe with a little too much of a mag slant than the average Resurrection customer.

The Autococker IS the Harley Davidson of people. Sure there will be people that just want the Honda "Cheap electro" but there is something to the sound and mechanisms of an Autococker that is fun, and I don't want that to be lost.

[manike]

I'm happy that the autococker lives on and its not just fading away into paintball history.

Me too. That's why it was cool to get to bring it back to life.

I think $550 would probably be a bargain for a high end custom Mag.


..and I don't think the name "resurrection" is appropriate.. Mags never died like cockers did

I agree on both counts.

Would a new mag need to be "custom"? What makes it custom as compared to production?

Why would it be a bargain for a mag to be $550 but not a new autococker?

[GoatBoy]

First, isn't "rational aesthetics" an oxymoron?

I don't think so. I mean, I could delve into this, but things might get... "ugly".


I really wish there were an annual "mag vs cockers" event. There was almost one last year, but they fumbled the rules and made it no longer a "mag vs cocker" event.


I think the sizing of the barrel kit is fine -- the only two sizes I ever use are 0.680 and 0.685 anyways. No doubt I would love to have the extra length of those backs in a Freak system.

However, one reason I prefer the Freak is that I can consider the inserts to be disposable. If they get scuffed up or damaged, I just buy new ones. (Brass ones, at that. If we're going to talk about unquantifiable magic, which must always be the case when discussing autocockers, then I'm invoking the spirit of 'brass'.) If I scuff up or otherwise damage a back on one of these barrel kits? *shrug*

That, and I can swap the inserts with other Freak bored barrels, like on my pistols. Or *cough* on my Spyder.

If you're a "pro" player that drinks from the fountain of equipment and doesn't bother with other guns, that's fine, but for mere mortals, I think the "pro" argument is ... well, it's not relevant to me.


As far as a Resurrection Automag -- the price question can't be answered without knowing what the product would be in the first place. If you just took a classic and rebadged it -- no. If you were to make substantial improvements, possibly. Question can't be answered at this time.

[BigEvil]

Me too. That's why it was cool to get to bring it back to life.



I agree on both counts.

Would a new mag need to be "custom"? What makes it custom as compared to production?

Why would it be a bargain for a mag to be $550 but not a new autococker?

Until the pump crazy got going, you were able to get a really high end mech cocker on the cheap. Parts are still relatively inexpensive compared to mag stuff, probably due simply to the fact there there are just a lot more of them out there....

For example... I seriously don't think I could put a price on this gun...



**EDIT

For the price of just the E-90 grip frame I could almost buy a new Resurrection cocker

[manike]

However, one reason I prefer the Freak is that I can consider the inserts to be disposable. If they get scuffed up or damaged, I just buy new ones. (Brass ones, at that. If we're going to talk about unquantifiable magic, which must always be the case when discussing autocockers, then I'm invoking the spirit of 'brass'.) If I scuff up or otherwise damage a back on one of these barrel kits? *shrug*

The compatibility point I understand and agree that it's nice, but I am interested in how you consider the inserts to be disposable as a good thing.

Since I made them I never paid for inserts but even then it annoyed me when one would get dropped and ding up to be unusable, or get squashed out of round and be unusable. They are certainly worse in tolerance and straightness than normal barrel backs since it's simply harder to make them as well with such a thin wall. I have lost count of the amount of inserts I have dropped and damaged the lip to the point I wouldn't use them.

I have some barrels that are 15 years old and work just as well (or better) and don't get damaged as easily. If I had them in a set of complete bore sizes I would take them over almost all other barrels.

[manike]

**EDIT

For the price of just the E-90 grip frame I could almost buy a new Resurrection cocker

There is no doubt that is a stunning mag, hence why it was my first pick at Tunaball but how many people would really pay $500 for that frame system? I can't say that I would.

[BigEvil]

There is no doubt that is a stunning mag, hence why it was my first pick at Tunaball but how many people would really pay $500 for that frame system? I can't say that I would.

Well, since I only made 10, the price was stupid high.. and I did get 9 buyers. It was something that was meant to be 'special', and there were no delusions about potentially getting a bargain

[debruynda]

Would you pay $550 for it?[/QUOTE]

Only if it has an Inception Designs logo on it.

[SoulCoffin]

Only if it has an Inception Designs logo on it.

brown noser

[debruynda]

brown noser

Thanks Dan.

[BigEvil]

Would you pay $550 for it?

Only if it has an Inception Designs logo on it.[/QUOTE]


Simon has the machines, I have the SW files... we could make that happen. :P

[steve_81]

I would pay $550 for it!

[knownothingmags]

i still need to buy one of those frames.

you should make me one.

i would pay 500$ for a frame if there are only small numbers made, such as 10. but that is just me.

[NU_METAL]

Only if it has an Inception Designs logo on it.

Simon has the machines, I have the SW files... we could make that happen. :P[/QUOTE]

You guys can call it " BIG PUMP-IN " lol