Empire Resurrection Opinions

[GoatBoy]

@ Nobody - Thanks for the info.

@Goatboy - God forbid someone tries to ask for information on the internet. For your information I already knew everything you posted, but a "hot rodded" cocker can do more less everything you listed besides having the new frame and barrel. Maybe I wanted some insight from owners who might have noticed something different about the design in general. Do everyone a favor and stop being a jerk.

That's one of the (many) things I don't miss from the old days -- people running around calling their markers "tricked out". In this case, you've swapped for "hot rodded."

That literally means nothing, and when you ask to compare a Resurrection against your "hot rodded" cocker, how is anyone suppose to possibly know what is in your "hot rodded" cocker to make any sort of sensible comparison?

[�.C.]

That's one of the (many) things I don't miss from the old days -- people running around calling their markers "tricked out". In this case, you've swapped for "hot rodded."

That literally means nothing, and when you ask to compare a Resurrection against your "hot rodded" cocker, how is anyone suppose to possibly know what is in your "hot rodded" cocker to make any sort of sensible comparison?

I used the terminology I did to remain consistent with what was used in previous discussion. In this case it means an autococker costing around $1500. The term "hot rodded" was used earlier, but you didn't feel the need to be obnoxious about it then, so I'm not sure that's what truly provoked your less than considerate response. If I had $1500 to pour into an autococker (even back in the early 2000s) I would expect it to have all the bells and whistles. I think that's a fairly reasonable assumption, although I will admit there are ways to interpret the information given differently. That being said, even if there was any obscurity in the way I phrased my question, it doesn't exonerate your antagonistic behavior.

[debruynda]

I used the terminology I did to remain consistent with what was used in previous discussion. In this case it means an autococker costing around $1500. The term "hot rodded" was used earlier, but you didn't feel the need to be obnoxious about it then, so I'm not sure that's what truly provoked your less than considerate response. If I had $1500 to pour into an autococker (even back in the early 2000s) I would expect it to have all the bells and whistles. I think that's a fairly reasonable assumption, although I will admit there are ways to interpret the information given differently. That being said, even if there was any obscurity in the way I phrased my question, it doesn't exonerate your antagonistic behavior.

You said bells and whistles, just so I'm clear can I infer that those terms together mean the same as hot-rodded, tricked-out, maxed-out, pimped-out, fully-loaded, bad-ace, or f@#k-all

Such verbiage can be viewed as akin to trade language in any other realm and is used for the sake of brevity by sensible people all the time For instance, Simon knew exactly what the term meant and didn't even flinch before saying that the Resurrection had more than a fully-loaded cocker when such language was used initially.

[going_home]

Internet......Serious Business

That being said, even if there was any obscurity in the way I phrased my question, it doesn't exonerate your antagonistic behavior.

[debruynda]

Well said Allen.

[blackdeath1k]

I think one of the common misconceptions about cockers is that they are high maintenance. Sure, the closer you get it to its performance limits the more likely you are to have problems. However, the tech on my old team used to set it at the beginning of the season and the only problem I would ever encounter was a blown low pressure hose and even that was rare. People got into problems when they would mess around with the timing which was easy to throw off when you figure you have to have the right cocking rod length, right timing rod length so the three way will function and not leak, correct hammer and valve spring tension, correct sear return tension, correct hammer lug depth...any one of those things being out of balance meant your cocker might not function correctly. The last sentence seems to contradict my claim but I meant it only as an illustration that once those aspects are set, and someone who is not a seasoned cocker tech like me would just leave them alone, the reliability and consistency was never an issue. My old cocker used to shoot like a dream but that is because I was disciplined enough not to mess with it or if I wanted to upgrade one of the aspects listed above I let a tech do it for me.

Oh I know that if you leave them alone once set up they are fine for quite a while. My deal is. Since I make a career out of industrial maintenance. I have an issue paying anyone to do stuff I can do myself. From everything I've ever seen with cockers. They are not that big of a deal. But then again. I don't want to ever have to work on my gun. And the cocker generally speaking needs more work than my RT. Heck. I don't want a level X bolt simply because for no more paint than I chop its not worth the added care to keep it proper. I am considering a ULT trigger. But I'd have to give Luke some milling business first. That said. I still fall back with. As much as I love autocockers. I do not want to have to do anything more than oiling my gun.

[brokeass_baller]

I've never been much of an Autococker guy, but I got to shoot the Resurrection at my local proshop, and holy mother of Jesus is it smooth! The milling looks real nice in person, too. The trigger on it is spectacular. I've never used a slider that was so smooth, stock. And it's so short that you can get a good rhythm going without much worry of short stroking.

I like it. I want one.

[Sniper Steve]

For those of you that have said you want one or for those of you that say the price is not too high, this one just sold on ebay for a really low price compared to what they go for new.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/181161361445...84.m1423.l2649

[debruynda]

For those of you that have said you want one or for those of you that say the price is not too high, this one just sold on ebay for a really low price compared to what they go for new.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/181161361445...84.m1423.l2649

Someone got real lucky

[GoatBoy]

I used the terminology I did to remain consistent with what was used in previous discussion. In this case it means an autococker costing around $1500. The term "hot rodded" was used earlier, but you didn't feel the need to be obnoxious about it then, so I'm not sure that's what truly provoked your less than considerate response. If I had $1500 to pour into an autococker (even back in the early 2000s) I would expect it to have all the bells and whistles. I think that's a fairly reasonable assumption, although I will admit there are ways to interpret the information given differently. That being said, even if there was any obscurity in the way I phrased my question, it doesn't exonerate your antagonistic behavior.

I have a longer and more entertaining response, but I want to try something different out.

How would you like us to answer your question, as posed? Simply craft the form of the response, and we can try to fill in the details.

[KurtPB]

This thread is out of hand.

[GEE TEE]

I'll form my own opinions once I've shot one for the first time

Hopefully that will be this Saturday

Pity to see good treads like this degenerate into a personal slanging match

[debruynda]

I have a longer and more entertaining response, but I want to try something different out.

How would you like us to answer your question, as posed? Simply craft the form of the response, and we can try to fill in the details.

Who is this "us" and "we" you refer to?

[Syko89]

Can this use the eblade trigger frames?

[KurtPB]

I think the issue you'd run into would be the frame mounting differently than most 'cockers. I know when the snipers were having pneu's put on them, someone had to use an old shocktech slider for it to work, not something like a WGP hinge or anything. Although, I know Docfire has put an aftermarket hinge on his Resurrection, can't remember the brand AND this is AO where guys put wonky parts on their mags so why not a Resurrection? A local friend of mine said he has an eblade kit NIB and he's tempting with it... we shall see.