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  • mykroft
    Registered User
    • Jan 2001
    • 2010

    #1

    Baltimore PB Ban

    From APG Newsletter:

    From: [email protected]
    Date: Sat Mar 09, 2002 07:12:16 PM US/Eastern
    To: [email protected]
    Subject: ALERT: BALTIMORE. BILL to Ban Possession-Sales-Discharge of Paintball Guns

    ALERT: BALTIMORE.

    BILL to Ban Possession-Sales-Discharge of Paintball Guns

    HEARING: MONDAY, MARCH 11. 5 p.m.

    Baltimore's City Council is considering an ordinance that would make it illegal to "discharge, possess, sell, buy, give away, or otherwise transfer any paintball gun in Baltimore City."

    Violation of this would be a misdemeanor and, on conviction, the sentence could be a fine up to $500, and/or imprisonment for up to 60 days, for each offense.

    This would apply to individuals, corporations, partnerships and all other entities (see below).

    The item is on the City Council's draft Agenda for MONDAY, MARCH 11.

    CALL THE CITY COUNCIL FOR FURTHER INFORMATION.

    Also affected, though differently, would be gas- or air-pellet guns (see below).


    CITY OF BALTIMORE WEB SITE: http://www.baltimorecitycouncil.com/la.htm.

    The City Council publishes its agenda three business days in advance of a Council meeting, and posts that agenda to this website.

    The item on the Agenda is under "bills introduced". This is a summary. The full draft text is below. The summary says:

    02-0713 Weapons - Paintball Guns

    Sponsors: Holton.

    ORDINANCE - FOR the purpose of prohibiting the possession, sale or transfer, or discharge of paintball guns and similar devices; defining certain terms; imposing certain penalties; correcting, clarifying, and conforming certain related provisions governing gas- and air-pellet devices; and generally relating to guns and other devices that discharge pellets and other objects. - PUBLIC SAFETY SUBCOMMITTEE (020500)

    As of March 7, 2002, this is what it says, according to a fax from the City Council. Call the City Council to get a copy fax'd directly to you. Anything in brackets [] is current wording that would be replaced.

    Section 1. Be It Ordained by the Mayor and City Council of Baltimore, That the Laws of Baltimore City read as follows:

    Baltimore City Code

    Article 19. Police Ordinances

    Subtitle 59. Weapons


    Section 59-26. Gas- or air-pellet guns.

    (A) Definitions.

    (1)

    In this section, the following terms have the meanings indicated.

    (2) "Gas- or Air-Pellet gun".

    "Gas- or Air-Pellet gun" means any gun or other device, by whatever name or description known, that discharges a pellet or other object by force of gas or air cylinder or cartridge.

    (3) "Person".

    "Person" means any individual, partnership, firm, association, corporation, limited liability company, or any entity of any kind.

    (B) [(a)]: Giving, etc., to minor prohibited.

    [It shall be unlawful for any persons, firm or corporation to] No Person may sell, give away, [lend, rent,] or otherwise transfer a Gas- or Air-Pellet gun to, or permit the use of a Gas- or Air-pellet gun by, any individual whom [any such] that person [, firm, or corporation] knows or has reasonable cause to believe [to be] a minor [, under the age of 21 years, any gun or other device, by whatever name or description known, which discharges a pellet or other object by force of gas or air cylinder or cartridge].


    (C) [(b)]: Discharge or use [prohibited].

    [It shall be unlawful for any] No person [to] may discharge or use any [gun or other device, by whatever name or description known, which discharges a pellet or other object by force of a gas or air cartridge or cylinder,] gas- or air-pellet gun unless the [said] gun [shall be] is kept within his or her own domicile or [shall be] is used by him exclusively for the purpose of teaching the use and care of [weapons or] firearms at [an] a properly constructed indoor or outdoor range [which shall be under the supervision, guidance, and instruction of an adult].

    [(c) Same.

    It shall be unlawful for any person to discharge any such gun or device from or across any street, sidewalk, alley, or public road within the limits of the City of Baltimore except on a properly constructed target range or except on private grounds or residence under circumstances where the said gun or device can be fired, discharged, or operated in such a manner as not to endanger persons or property and also in such a manner as to prevent the projectile from traversing any grounds or space outside the limits of such grounds or residence.]

    (d) Penalties.

    Any [violation of the provisions] person who violates any provision of this section [shall be deemed to be] is guilty of a misdemeanor and, on conviction, is subject [upon conviction] to a fine of not more than $500 or to imprisonment for not [longer] more than 60 days or to both fine and imprisonment [, in the discretion of the Court] for each offense.




    Section 59-26.1. Paintball Guns

    (A) Definitions

    (1) In General

    In this section, the following terms have the meanings indicated.

    (2) "Paintball Gun".

    "Paintball Gun" means any gun or other device, including a gas- or air-pellet gun as defined in Section 59-26 of this subtitle, that is used or designed or intended to be used to discharge a paintball or other object designed or intended to mark a target with pigmentation.

    (3) "Person".

    "Person" means any individual, partnership, firm, association, corporation, limited liability company, or any entity of any kind.

    (B) Discharge, Possession, Etc., Prohibited.

    No person may discharge, possess, sell, buy, give away, or otherwise transfer any paintball gun in Baltimore City.

    (C) Penalties.

    Any person who violates any provision of this section is guilty of a misdemeanor and, on conviction, is subject to a fine or not more than $500 or to imprisonment for not more than 60 days or to both fine and imprisonment for each offense.

    Section 2. And Be it Further Ordained, That the catchlines contained in this Ordinance are not law and may not be considered to have been enacted as a part of this or any prior Ordinance.

    Section 3. And Be It Further Ordained, That this Ordinance takes effect on the 30th day after the date it is enacted.


    The City Council meeting of Monday, March 11, begins at 5 p.m. at City Hall.

    The web site indicates: Full texts of City Council bills are not available online as of yet. If you require the full text of a bill, please call the Council's Executive Secretary during business hours at (410) 396-1697. Requests will be filled via facsimile or U.S. Mail as appropriate.

    CONTACTS

    IF YOU WISH TO CONTACT ANY CITY OFFICIAL, IT IS ABSOLUTELY VITAL THAT YOUR CONTACT BE VERY POLITE.

    STATING YOUR OPINION IS CERTAINLY APPROPRIATE, BUT DOING SO IN A WAY THAT IS CONSIDERED RUDE WILL HURT PAINTBALL'S CAUSE, NOT HELP IT.


    City of Baltimore
    City Council
    City Hall, Room 408
    100 North Holliday Street
    Baltimore, Maryland 21202
    City Switchboard (all departments) 410-396-3100


    City Council Members:

    Sheila Dixon, President of the Council

    Stephanie Rawlings Blake, Vice President

    District One: Nicholas C. D'Adamo, Jr., John L. Cain, Lois A. Garey

    District Two: Paula Johnson Branch, Bernard C. "Jack" Young, Pamela V. Carter

    District Three: Robert W. Curran, Kenneth N. Harris, Sr., Lisa Joi Stancil

    District Four: Agnes Welch, Keiffer J. Mitchell, Jr., Catherine E. Pugh

    District Five: Rochelle "Rikki" Spector, Helen L. Holton, Stephanie Rawlings Blake

    District Six: Melvin L. Stukes, Kwame Abayomi, Edward L. Reisinger

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    TELEPHONE NUMBERS:

    President of City Council 410-396-4804

    1st District 410-396-4806

    2nd District 410-396-4809

    3rd District 410-396-4814

    4th District 410-396-4817

    5th District 410-396-4820

    6th District 410-396-4823

    Council Executive Secretary 410-396-4800

    Mayor's Office 410-396-4892



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  • Hemlock86
    I'll kill you
    • Feb 2002
    • 693

    #2
    Thats sooooo weak.......

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    • MikeCouves
      The Enemy
      • Aug 2001
      • 1877

      #3
      That sucks!! OMG what a stupid city!! how dumb could you be!!!
      Last edited by BlackVCG; 03-09-2002, 11:19 PM.
      "If everything is under control your not moving fast enough."

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      • Bluntman
        Two Tons of Fun
        • Nov 2001
        • 156

        #4
        If they just bring it down to discharge then it would be alright, cause you don't need to use a paintball gun in a city.
        Now that's the ugliest damn bong I've ever seen.

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        • Riotz

          #5
          Even discharge would be bad. That would mean no indoor fields in the city ever.

          My aunt may have some political friends in Baltimore, shes a big shot down there. I'll send her this link.

          One of those bills says "to minors" though. Its a little confusing...

          This is THordic posting from Riotz house, by the way
          Last edited by Guest; 03-09-2002, 09:41 PM.

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          • nutz
            l0l
            • Oct 2001
            • 1412

            #6
            omg that is not cool
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            • headcase
              Gotta Love Toys
              • Nov 2001
              • 1141

              #7
              Originally posted by Riotz
              Even discharge would be bad. That would mean no indoor fields in the city ever.

              My aunt may have some political friends in Baltimore, shes a big shot down there. I'll send her this link.

              One of those bills says "to minors" though. Its a little confusing...

              This is THordic posting from Riotz house, by the way
              In a nut shell it say the following.

              It is OK to own a bb/pellet gun as long as it is only used on properly constructed private ranges. And minors are not allowed to own them.

              Paintball markers are not allowed at all. Under this bill NO ONE would be allowed to own a paintball marker, never mind shoot it.
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              • liigod
                under god = under facism
                • Dec 2001
                • 795

                #8
                thats why i live in california

                dream of califonication....
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                • HoppysMag
                  Hoppy's en Fuego!!!
                  • Oct 2001
                  • 3494

                  #9
                  If they ever tried this in MA i would fight them tooth and nail.....till the bitter end. Thats it they need to make a law AGAINST bannin paintball guns.. Im SICK of this.. Uninformed people making uninformed decisions.
                  "You have not converted a man because you have silenced him." -John Morley

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                  • Stinger
                    Registered User
                    • Nov 2000
                    • 92

                    #10
                    OK fellas we have to fight this, please write to the council members expressing your opinion on the matter. It would be extremely harmful to the sport to have this happen.
                    www.delmarvapaintball.com
                    Marylands only indoor paintball arena.

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                    • bratch
                      Registered User
                      • Jun 2001
                      • 470

                      #11
                      In case anyone was too lazy to read the whole email please remember to keep you opinions civil. It will look very bad on us if everone is telling them how stupid they are to ban paintball guns. Try to find facts such as injuries per person or annual revenue from paintball to add into your comments. This will show the council we are educated and the positive sides of the sport.
                      There's all kind of songs about babies and love gone right, but for some unknown reason nobody wants to play them tonight.

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                      • Aranarth
                        Registered User
                        • Feb 2002
                        • 144

                        #12
                        Baltimore people!

                        I suggest we rally efforts to fill their emails with legitimate points. Those who are local or close, I would suggest calling and attempting to speak to the representatives in person. If you can, see what you can do about attending the meeting itself. Have the local business owners contact the council, and not just paintball distributers, but sports shop owners, the people you buy your clothes from to paintball in, the people who fill your shop owners' fill stations, the realtors who lease the land to the paintball field owner, the insurance agencies that insure paintball parks. Have them all contact the city council. The business owners are the key. Money talks.
                        My email to council members:

                        Council members of Baltimore:
                        I am a paintball player. Currently I reside in Washington, though I maintain my status of voting resident in Arizona. I have played paintball all over the United States. Recently it was brought to my attention that you are considering a bill to ban paintball in your city. This bill distrubs me greatly.
                        Paintball is a sport. It has been shown that it is one of the safest sports that people can engage in today, safer than tennis and even golf. Paintball can be played by all ages of people. I have seen children six years old playing, and I have seen grown men nearing fifty years old playing. Men and women both play, and they play together on equal terms. Paintball encourages teamwork, builds responsibility, and promotes exercise. Its benefits are numerous, and I have not listed them all by far. It seems that all I ever hear about is the negatives, though. A majority of the time, these negatives are based on misunderstanding, and lack of knowledge. Occassionally, they are based on fact, and improper usage of the equipment that is part of a the sport of paintball.
                        Many people who have not participated in a game of paintball have litter understanding regarding it. They view it as some sort of war game, most of the time. This view is incorrect. Paintball is an elaborate form of tag, but tag where instead of one person being 'it', it is one team versus the other. Rules and safety equipment ensure that nobody is injured, both the people playing and the people observing. These rules are enforced by both the field officials, and the players themselves. The level of enforcement is so strict that paintball has become known to have that level of safety greater than that of so many other sports.
                        Yet, this lack of experience and understanding is very prevelant in the community today. It seems that the topic I hear more and more often is that of regulating and banning paintball, and every time I hear it it is spoken from the point of someone who has little understanding of what paintball is. This lack of understanding, by people who are in the position to create and enforce laws, can cause the sport of paintball, the people who play, and many others, to suffer. This suffering would would encompass those able to compete in their sport. It would be all of the sports stores and paintball stores in the baltimore city limits. This would also affect those companies that own the equipment used to fill nitrogen tanks and co2 tanks, and to hydrotest the tanks that the paintball player uses. It would be the employees of these companies, and their families. Banning paintball guns would mean that people would have to get rid of thousands of dollars, in some cases, of gear. And they would not be able to sell this in their area. Most people who possess these items would have almost no means of getting rid of this gear. Is the city council going to buy every single gun? Are they going to provide a means of getting rid of these? What will they do when they realize that the people who follow their regulations are the ones that use paintballs correctly, and the people who don't follow their regulations are those that will keep their now outlawed 'weapons' and use them for the same purposes that gave paintball a bad repuation in the first place. What will they do about the people that buy over the internet and have paintball equipment shipped to them, thus bypassing their law enforced shutdown of local business? Are the shipping authorities to screen every package that crosses the boundary of the city limits? Your law will just increase the problems you seem to be having with misuse of paintball equipment. You will eliminate your ally in policing their use: you will eliminate the paintball player. You will be left with two types of people: those that use paintball markers wrongly for illegal means, and those that decide to keep their equipment so they can take it to places where they can use it legally. The first type are the very small minority that you already have a problem with. The second type will be a small fraction of what is right now the majority of a very large group. This second group will most likely become dis-illusioned with helping to police the use of paintball. Evidently, the help they already offer is spurned. Evidently, you do not care for them, so why should they care to help you? Do not make the mistake of losing the support and help you already have.
                        Paintball markers can be used wrongly, as can baseball bats, and hockey pucks. The solution is not to remove the arm to treat the infected fingernail. The solution is to sterilize the fingernail. Deal with people that abuse the equipment. The paintball community already has a harsh view of those that use their equipment in ways it should not be used. In other words, YOU already have our enthusiastic support in your efforts to deal with any problem that stems from misuse of our sport. Why not attempt to use this support you have, instead of turning it against you?
                        It is my sincere hope that you listen to the content of my words, and that you understand my position in this matter. Though I am not a voter in your district, or even your state, and your laws would not affect me, they would affect my fellow paintballers. Paintball is a team sport, and a community of teammates besides. I can go to any part of the country, and find people who are friendly, and welcoming. I ask that you do not destroy the good of paintball in your city, for the sake of attempting to remove the evil.

                        Respectfully,
                        Daniel McCutchan
                        [email protected]

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                        • HoppysMag
                          Hoppy's en Fuego!!!
                          • Oct 2001
                          • 3494

                          #13
                          "If you outlaw guns, only outlaws will have guns" that meaning the people who give reason to outlaw something are doing somthing illegal to begin with. What makes you think that a piece of paper that says "you cant have those" will make them stop?

                          My father says that all the time. its the same as "Locks only keep honest people honest"... if you are willin to give enough time money and resources, anything can be done
                          "You have not converted a man because you have silenced him." -John Morley

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                          • Top Secret
                            IPR's E-Maggot
                            • Jun 2001
                            • 601

                            #14
                            Originally posted by liigod
                            thats why i live in california

                            dream of califonication....
                            Dude, you realize you live in the liberal haven of America? You're next.

                            Gun control = paintball control. You allow gun control to pass, you are opening the door for anti-paintball legisation to pass. Plain and simple. The "government" of Assachusetts has deemed that "citizens" cannot protect themselves with firearms. The Citizen of the Year is not allowed to carry a gun because of a misdemeanor that he commited in his youth. Real common sense in these legislator's heads, no? If you are writing your legislators to not ban paintball, it's already too late. Get out of there. Move to one of the few remaining "free states" that still recognizes our Constitution.
                            O FLAGPULL O

                            Cincinnati All-Stars

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                            • rifleman
                              I registered before you.
                              • Oct 2000
                              • 592

                              #15
                              I'm going to send a copy of this to the NRA and see what they think.




                              Adam

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