New Immortal Air adjustable reg from the people who brought us Air America

[Fred]

I shall stick to my 4500 flatline with 1100psi output and continue to guard my 3 extra reg seats like they're solid gold...

[debruynda]

I'm saying I already have two Ninja regs (one SHP) and they are bulletproof, and I wouldnt buy more because I already have the best.

Agreed. I ran an SHP on my mag at tunaball for the first time and thats all I plan on using. Big difference between 850 (I think that is near the high end for the Ninja adjustable anyway) and 1100.

[[NA]WARLORD]

I agree with Going_Home on this one, Ninja has him beat by 16.00. Ninja's basic reg is adjustable between 450 - 850 just like Dans, but it's 16.00 cheaper. Most people I know would take the savings over the name and rep of someones past. My question, where are the regs manufactured ? Since all the media hype has yet to mention this.

[BigEvil]

I agree with Going_Home on this one, Ninja has him beat by 16.00. Ninja's basic reg is adjustable between 450 - 850 just like Dans, but it's 16.00 cheaper. Most people I know would take the savings over the name and rep of someones past. My question, where are the regs manufactured ? Since all the media hype has yet to mention this.

There are a few weaknesses in the Ninja regs. The reg pin spring is very weak and they tend to creep, bad at times. Probably not as bad an issue for mag shooters, but the LP guns are having some issues with them.

[luke]

I wonder if the IA regs could be tuned to output another 100-150 psi?

[AGDRetro]

Aluminum bonnet into aluminum ASA? Not a fan - want me a nickel plated brass bonnet.

[GoatBoy]

Howasabout we stop calling preset regs "adjustable".

My Nitro Duck X-stream is adjustable.

My AA Raptor Rex is adjustable.

My non-functional Hyperflow 201 if it were working would be adjustable.

Ninja's and this Aura?

NOT ADJUSTABLE.

[[NA]WARLORD]

If I can add a spring/shim to get a desired output pressure, then yes, it's adjustable.

[GoatBoy]

If I can add a spring/shim to get a desired output pressure, then yes, it's adjustable.

[Frizzle Fry]

I generally disagree with Goatboy about everything, but in this case I agree wholeheartedly. This has always bugged me because there are actual adjustable regulators out there and frankly it's misleading to bill these as such... Granted I have yet to see a screw-in adjustable regulator but I've also never seen a screw-in that couldn't be shimmed up or down to a different output pressure.

Honestly, I don't think any regulator that can't be adjusted under pressure should be considered "adjustable".

[GoatBoy]

I generally disagree with Goatboy about everything, but in this case I agree wholeheartedly.

What? Me? No, no you must be talking about some other GoatBoy.

Granted I have yet to see a screw-in adjustable regulator but I've also never seen a screw-in that couldn't be shimmed up or down to a different output pressure.

Nitro Duck X-stream. And by way of cheesing it, the Ninja. See later. It would be nice if a manufacturer stepped up and filled the vacancy in adjustable regs (screw-in or not) instead of trying to muscle into the overpopulated preset space.

Not only is it about being able to adjust it while under pressure, but it's about the granularity of adjustment steps. With the big spring packs or belleville washers, you have very large adjustment steps.

Even with shims you still have large relatively large adjustment steps.



Dirty tactics: I actually have tried adjusting my ninja's output pressure. And I managed to make it pretty much hit 725.

I kept noticing that the output adjustment on the ninjas was somewhat erratic. Take a shim out -- 600. Put a shim in -- 800. Take the same one back out -- 700. WTF?

Judging by the shim thickness, I realized that how tightly you screw that bonnet on can affect output pressure. So I varied, ever so slightly, the position of how tightly I screwed it on and locked it down, and managed to hit roughly 725. I don't know how stable it's going to be though.

[BigEvil]

What?
Dirty tactics: I actually have tried adjusting my ninja's output pressure. And I managed to make it pretty much hit 725.

I kept noticing that the output adjustment on the ninjas was somewhat erratic. Take a shim out -- 600. Put a shim in -- 800. Take the same one back out -- 700. WTF?

Judging by the shim thickness, I realized that how tightly you screw that bonnet on can affect output pressure. So I varied, ever so slightly, the position of how tightly I screwed it on and locked it down, and managed to hit roughly 725. I don't know how stable it's going to be though.

The reg pin springs are VERY WEAK on the ninja regs, which can make them do really weird things at times.

[Frizzle Fry]

Maybe a better system would be to say any regulator that needs to be disassembled to change the output pressure should not be considered "adjustable" but "customizable" output?

Oh and I had the exact same issue with my first generation Ninja. The "pro" model seemed to have very defined increments.

[Spider-TW]

There are two shim sizes, a thick and a thin one.

The thick one does you, what, about 100PSI per shim.

The thin one does, what, 50PSI? Just a ballpark, you'll see why in a bit.

Assume a starting pressure of 650PSI, what combination of shims will give me my "desired output pressure" of 725PSI for my X-valve?

3/4's of the 100psi shim, or 1 and 1/2 50psi shims.

Do I win?

[wimag]

Been using Ninja when they first came out. Best product out there, phenomenal customer service. When and if someone comes out with something better I may look into it. Too many opinions from too many people who at one time or another backed or supported a massive failure product for me to look anywhere else.