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  • OPBN
    OldPBNoob

    • Sep 2008
    • 5240

    #1

    Apex2 Freak Tip

    Looking at barrel options for a new pump build and tossing around the possibility of utilizing a Freak back (probaby WWA) coupled with an Apex2 front. Does anybody have any real experience with this setup? I'm not looking to be "ZOMG I'm a Sniper" or anything, but kinda interested in a little extra range and flatter trajectory that a backspin type barrel allows. Several years ago I used a Flatline on an A5 and a 98 and had pretty mixed feelings on the setups. Never tried it with the Freak back though.

    Anyone?
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  • BTAutoMag
    AO's Problem Child
    • Oct 2001
    • 7199

    #2
    I have an apex 2 freak tip. And I will only use it in woods ball. Apex 2 is the epitome of accuracy by volume. They have a 4-5 foot group at 50 feet.

    If it's a field with obstacles that you need to snap shoot in.... You're boned. I keep trying to use it and I'll yank it off mid game. At living legends it more then payed for itself.
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    • going_home
      Hebrews 13:8

      • Dec 2004
      • 8343

      #3
      Apex2 is all I use. But I've been using Lapco barrels.
      Just recently picked up a GOG Apex Freak tip but have yet to use it.
      Been wanting to try ball sizing with the Apex tip to see if it makes any difference.
      I have a lot of fun with the Apex tip.
      Curving around obstacles and turning it upside down and coming down on top of bunkers.

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      • OPBN
        OldPBNoob

        • Sep 2008
        • 5240

        #4
        Originally posted by BTAutoMag View Post
        I have an apex 2 freak tip. And I will only use it in woods ball. Apex 2 is the epitome of accuracy by volume. They have a 4-5 foot group at 50 feet.

        If it's a field with obstacles that you need to snap shoot in.... You're boned. I keep trying to use it and I'll yank it off mid game. At living legends it more then payed for itself.
        Sounds about the same accuracy that I was getting with my Flatlines. Actually, I found the FL on the 98C was considerably more accurate than the A5 one. No idea why, but I didnt have either long enough to really do in depth testing. I just remember watching the paint fly out of the barrel of my A5 and do some REALLY funky stuff.

        But there are a few places that I play at that have some overhead brush that it would be nice to be able to not arc long balls. Might keep my eyes open for a used one. Not sure I want to invest $75 + WWA back for iffy results.
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        • BTAutoMag
          AO's Problem Child
          • Oct 2001
          • 7199

          #5
          I am more then happy to send it out to you to try if you wish.
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          • Justus
            Justech.us

            • Nov 2010
            • 1515

            #6
            Apex2 > Flatline

            When you'd rather have accuracy than range, you simply click the ramp back instead of changing barrels. Then you get no backspin, and your accuracy comes back.

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            • OPBN
              OldPBNoob

              • Sep 2008
              • 5240

              #7
              Originally posted by BTAutoMag View Post
              I am more then happy to send it out to you to try if you wish.
              I might just take you up on that... Need to get some more parts together first.
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              • BTAutoMag
                AO's Problem Child
                • Oct 2001
                • 7199

                #8
                even all the way back theres still some duckbill contact
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                • Justus
                  Justech.us

                  • Nov 2010
                  • 1515

                  #9
                  Originally posted by BTAutoMag View Post
                  even all the way back theres still some duckbill contact
                  I haven't noticed any on mine. Is your ramp worn or bent?

                  The design is so that it's able to be clicked all the way off.

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                  • BTAutoMag
                    AO's Problem Child
                    • Oct 2001
                    • 7199

                    #10
                    lol, honestly... I havnt dialed my new one all the way back EVER as my last one did that. maybe I'll give it a shot, if OPBN doesnt want to borrow it
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                    • OPBN
                      OldPBNoob

                      • Sep 2008
                      • 5240

                      #11
                      Originally posted by BTAutoMag View Post
                      lol, honestly... I havnt dialed my new one all the way back EVER as my last one did that. maybe I'll give it a shot, if OPBN doesnt want to borrow it
                      I'm probably 2-3 months away at least before being able to use it.
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                      • BTAutoMag
                        AO's Problem Child
                        • Oct 2001
                        • 7199

                        #12
                        Give me a shout. I only use it for woods ball... I don't play woods ball.
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                        • bbotts77
                          Dirty Frank
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 558

                          #13
                          I've been toying with the idea of getting one for my Fibur.

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                          • cockerpunk
                            Haters Gonna Hate
                            • Sep 2004
                            • 1383

                            #14
                            accuracy with the apex is actually quite similar to that of a normal barrel.

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                            • OPBN
                              OldPBNoob

                              • Sep 2008
                              • 5240

                              #15
                              Originally posted by cockerpunk View Post
                              accuracy with the apex is actually quite similar to that of a normal barrel.

                              http://punkworkspaintball.com/index.php?p=7&id=36
                              Ok. Honestly, not sure exactly how to read this, but buy guessing the X/Y are the axis'? So a perfect shot would be x and Y both equaling zero? Was a test done to determine if the Apex is more/less accurate at different ranges? Does any of this accomodate for angle of fire? Since the benefit, IMO, is that the Apex shoots on a flatter plane due to the backspin, was a test ever done to confirm this? I.E. take a target, put it at different ranges and determine at what point the Apex is able to out distance a standard barrel.
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