KAM Designs M86

[cougar20th]

So Ive been working on autocockers for the last 6 month. Time to come out with something that the AO Crew can use.




Specs:
AGD Spec where it counts.
86 degree (CCM based shape)
Mounting for fabco MSV-2 & clippard MPA-3
Tapped for Sleeper LPR mount Capable. The frame will be tapped 1/8NPT on the bottom but. You will have to modify the MSV-2 & its mounting plate. It will not come modified.
Trigger included, Forward & back stop setscrews. (AGD trigger compatable)
Frame accepts 2X emag trigger magnets above the forward trigger stop.
Can be used on twistlock guns or non twistlock.
Sear release hole for use on pnuemags.
Intelli switch mounts.
AGD Saftey compatable. (Safetey NOT Included)

I will be putting up a pre-order thread in the dealer forum within the next couple days.

[luke]

Looks good!

[cougar20th]

Looks good!

Thanks. I always enjoy designing these.

The machine is all setup for these. Hopefully once i get the preorder going it doesnt take to long to get enough.


Also forgot these will come with the grips.

[luke]

Did you finally get set up with a machining center?

[Chrome]

Great to see more folks making stuff. I admire those who can do this kind of thing; I've just never quite had the knack for it.

One point I wanted to mention that I had in passing to Luke recently. I know this frame has finger grooves machined in which would narrow some options, but what I told Luke is that the one thing that kept me from buying one of his frames already was that it did not use a standard (CZ in this case if I remember correctly) grip mounting configuration.

I like the idea of pretty annodized aluminum panels as much as anyone, but for a marker that is for "go" instead of "show", aluminum grips are a deal breaker for me. I had a chance to try out an x-mag with some lexan grips once; they were okay, but really not my thing.

Just a few cents worth (for what that is worth).

I do really dig the addition of the magnet return.

[BTAutoMag]

I do really dig the addition of the magnet return.

agreed

[luke]

One point I wanted to mention that I had in passing to Luke recently, what I told Luke is that the one thing that kept me from buying one of his frames already was that it did not use a standard (CZ in this case if I remember correctly) grip mounting configuration.

I like the idea of pretty annodized aluminum panels as much as anyone, but for a marker that is for "go" instead of "show", aluminum grips are a deal breaker for me.

A few points, personally I detest rubber and plastic grips, they just feel and look cheap and generic.
It's like the difference between custom wheels and hub caps 69 mustang fastback.
For me, the actual grip plays a very insignificant roll in actually firing the marker during a game.
Designing new products around existing parts SEVERELY limits your design and gets old (for me anyway) after awhile. I actually originally designed my frame to accept rubber wrap arounds and hated the final design. Ditched the entire design started from scratch and really dig the final design.

[need4reebs]

will there be a double trigger design?

[OPBN]

So it accepts CCM panels?

[dboggs79]

So it accepts CCM panels?

Doesn't appear to.

[luke]

How tall is the frame?

[Chrome]

I few points, personally I detest rubber and plastic grips, they just feel and look cheap and generic. It's like the difference between custom wheels and hub caps 69 mustang fastback.

Then you probably would laugh if I told you that, for example, I have a care and preferences regarding the specific brand/make of rubber grip on stock AGD single trigger frames. . . and that I actually prefer the composite grip frames to the metal ones when in hand.

For me, the actual grip plays a very insignificant roll in actually firing the marker during a game.

I could maybe see where you're coming from with double trigger frames (which I honestly have very little practice - and success - with using), as it seems to me that the grip frame itself is usually held very loosely if at all when walking a trigger in semi. . . but I could be totally off on that one. When shooting single trigger, on the other hand, and when running/maneuvering a marker not explicitly while shooting. . . I couldn't disagree more.

Designing new products around existing parts SEVERELY limits your design and gets old (for me anyway) after awhile. I actually originally designed my frame to accept rubber wrap arounds and hated the final design. Ditched the entire design started from scratch and really dig the final design.

I can respect the challenges (technically and artistically) in designing around existing parts. I would maybe take a "glass half full" outlook philosophically in approaching it as a challenge - aspiring to greatness in spite of adversity, so to speak.

In the end, in particular if you're doing this for fun, and you really dislike some aspect of what you're working on, by all means don't do something that you aren't going to enjoy. Defeats the whole purpose of the exercise if you're not having fun with a hobby, no? I'm glad you (and a lot of others) like your results - very close but just not quite for me, unfortunately on two counts now. Guess I'll have to stick with stock parts for a while yet.

[Nobody]

gentlemen, we could debate the merits of double triggers vs single, panels vs grips ad nauseum but it doesn't do this thread any good. if you like this sort of frame, then ask questions and possibly enter into the preorder. if not, then that's your choice, but voicing your gripes about it do nothing but stop people from attempting to add in new parts for all.

personally, i love it. not only is it good for people to take the chance in designing new things, but also to bring it to fruition. how many preorders have come and gone? how many people have talked a good game but haven't seen through to the product?

to me, other than not being a double trigger frame, which is no problem to me, i love it and can't wait to get on this.

[BigEvil]

I'm in for one.

[Sk8ermog]

I too personally really like the design with the finger grooves and it being a single trigger. I just don't know if I like the purple color j/k

I was looking for something custom for my pump mag and this might just be it.