Dangerous Games we Play.

[Trunnion]

why not use a lighter, but still dense metal? in WWII the army used Tungsten in their AP rounds because it was a dense metal. why not use something like that?

[Butterfingers]

Yep but tungsten would be too hard to mill, it would wear out thier machines like nothing. And it would also be expensve to buy. Tungsten is actually more dense than uranium.

The reason the US gov switched to DU was because it was much cheaper, and it self sharpened and burned whereas tungsten would just flatten when it hit tanks.

This DU stuff is overkill. Nothing was wrong with steel. They just wanted somthing else to market.

[tremis]

Tungsten must not be too expensive/hard to machine. The guide rod in my 45 is tungsten and it cost me 48 bucks. The stainless version from the same company (EGW) is twenty. It's a two piece guide rod, so it screws together, and they had drill and tap it. Its more than twice the price, but I wouldn't call it cost prohibitive. How much did the DU cost? It might be possible to buy tungsten round stock in the size you need, so you wouldn't have to turn it down.BTW the SS guide rod is 57g and the tungsten is 88g so its over 50% heavier. If heavier is what they want, it sounds good to me.

Tremis

[Spaceman613]

What I find comical is that these guys want no chopping but they only look in of area. I have an idea that I am working on for a cocker that will reduce chops. Yes I use a cocker, but I dont waste my money on a heavy hammer. I'm looking at other areas to help performance.

The freeflow to me is 90% marketing, it is nice gun, but no better than any other well tuned cocker. Mine wont chop a ball, but it isnt arbor honed or any other goofy scheme... Cockers are the best place to make money because all of the 12-18 year old punks with rich parents will buy them new parts till the cows come home.

"OOOH a new 4 way, i must have it to get my trigger .1mm shorter"

These people are SHEEP... DU is fine, it may be safe, but is it needed to smack a valve and release air? NO, use it to blast Terrorist and militant vehicles.. I want A-10's dumping so much of the stuff that these cocker sheep will fly to the middle east for hammer material.

Ok, sorry, I got off my point.

[CRySyS]

Well if your shooting at someone your trying to kill them so even if there is a chance that the shell will give them cancer its really a moot point don't you think?

As for the DU hammer, why not Tungsten? It heavier and not that soft. And it doesn't have half the world up in arm about its "possible" harmfull side effects.

You do know that inhaling aluminum dust is very harmfull to your health. Better drop your guns, they can kill you!

[Butterfingers]

Originally posted by tremis
Tungsten must not be too expensive/hard to machine. The guide rod in my 45 is tungsten and it cost me 48 bucks. The stainless version from the same company (EGW) is twenty. It's a two piece guide rod, so it screws together, and they had drill and tap it. Its more than twice the price, but I wouldn't call it cost prohibitive. How much did the DU cost? It might be possible to buy tungsten round stock in the size you need, so you wouldn't have to turn it down.BTW the SS guide rod is 57g and the tungsten is 88g so its over 50% heavier. If heavier is what they want, it sounds good to me.

Tremis

DU is DIRT cheap. Especially recycled DU from A nuclear Power Plant which Ethan Just admitted in his post on PBN. I am definately staying away from this stuff. He has no idea what kind of materials that DU is mixed with. A risky proposition. Ethan admitted that the cost of DU is less than the cost of his steel hammers.

Quote from Ethan: "I called the DOT (this is the office that approves DU sale once the ok comes from uncle sam). They gave me the info to purchase DU from a local supplier (a nuclear power plant)."

These are in fact nuclear fuel rods, not pure non- fissionable DU used in sabot rounds. These rods at one point in thier life were capable of nuclear fission. Risky business.

[TylerDurden]

Yeah, but it's a new way to get cheap glow in the dark paintballs. J/K. Seriously though, even the gov. has started cutting back on using DU in the A-10's. I figure if the gov. thinks theres something wrong than who am i to argue.