"Why do so many people dislike mags??"

[liigod]

well... chop chop chop. And they cost a booty load. I think a stock cocker is a better deal than a stock mag considering what u get. Thats my personal opinion.

[Sqweezer]

"One thing I hate about the Mag owners is this claim to "21-26bps" that is the singular reason that they list that gets me mad. Sure it's a fastr echarge valve but 26bps is a bogus claim. The reason is simple NOBODY can soot that fast, NO loader can load thats fast (dont use the HALO either, It's much faster but I wouldn't take the videos as a good example, they could have done that as many times as they needed for it to actually get to that rate."

I didn't read past that, but what doesn't he get about it being ABLE to go that high. Noone said anyone could actually do it. Machine.

liigod- Just making sure, have YOU owned a mag? mags don't chop if you maintain them well. I have had 2 and I get no chops besidesthe old leaving the revvy off.

[Grey_Goose]

I think one big thing that turns people off of 'mags is they're not a flashy gun. Unlike a 'cocker, which you can personalize the hell out of, a 'Mag owner is confined to a few splash kits and ummm... well, ok you see my point. I'm not saying that's a bad thing, but a lot of people also like to tinker and have aftermarket parts. Most 'mag owners know it comes great from the factory, but the tinker factor isn't there. There are also very, very few "special edition" 'mag productions. Look how many custom 'cockers, angels, etc. there are.

I think a lot of it is public perception and misguided second-hand knowledge. Compared to some of the other guns, a 'mag isn't a very exciting gun to own.

And please, before anyone flames me, I am a 'mag owner, many times over.

[Aranarth]

I wonder why these people always claim that mag is made as a beginners or intermediate gun, also. Hey tom, did you know that you made mag as an intermediate gun? lol. Instead, they should say that mag is made as a reasonably priced, high end gun. . .
-AranarthX

[RaV3n_Pa1ntba||]

I love this one....

"They're old and outdated. No range, horrible consistency." -cOcKeR169


Dont post on Pbnation most of them are a bunch of ingorant newbs who think they know.

[2UnREal]

What RaV3n_Pa1ntba|| just said about the ignorant newb thing got me thinking about Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back. If any of you saw it, at the end, they used their money to go and beat up all the people that dissed them. 90% of the people were little kids. I bet this applies to what is going on right now.

Now, I am trying to start a team and a guy asked me what type of gun do I shoot. I said, automag. Then he started saying that they are the most unreliable guns that he has ever seen and he said that his spider is better. Then I asked him, have you ever owned an automag? He's like, "no". Then I was like, " how do you know they suck then?" Then he didn't answer and then I said, "Yeah that is what I thought." But seriously, it is just a bunch of little kids that have cockers that their mommy and daddy bought for them and they believe that cocker elves DO exist.

Lastly, about the open bolt vs. closed bolt issue. I was talking to Aaron K. Alexander at LA open and he ACTUALLY believes that closed bolt shoots further than open! I was thinking about skipping over to Tom and telling him this but then I get side tracked by my friend. But, how rediculous is that! He thinks that open does not get as much distance as closed!

Peace!

[rx2]

I wonder how the debates would change if all players were required to take a few physics courses. Actually, and unfortunately, probably not much...

[theraidenproject]

inferiority complex? Thats why this is the only paintball forum i go to. Sure, theres a little of mag superiority, it is AUTOMAGS online. but, at least here people use facts to back things up, not perceptions, misconceptions, etc. We may like our mags better, but, by and large, theres not too much bashing of other markers.

[Smiles2480]

old mags- not really

The current generation of mags are the seventh generation. The guns have been built for simplicity and which makes it reliable. Also the experance that I have had with my auto mag doing nothing to it besides the trigger frame, and the barrel and it is working beautiful. I know that there is not much opposition on this form for mags but hey what gun can you drop on the floor and not worry about it messing up something. This curent generation had only been out for 5 years or so which is not that long of a time. Also the rt valve is a recent as they are only maybe 3 years old. So they are not really that old. Maybe to the new cockers which they are a countinual work on the gun. Here all you need is the gun, the tank and a hopper with balls, oyu are ready to go.

[rx2]

>at least here people use facts to back things up, not >perceptions, misconceptions, etc. We may like our mags >better, but, by and large, theres not too much bashing of >other markers.

That is what I like about this place. There are many informed people citing facts, and Tom puts all sorts of effort into testing. The problem is, some people regard facts and science as if it were some sort of superstition. Many of them don't grasp simple principles, and dismiss you because what you say (which has been derived from empirical trials and science) is not concurrent with what they believe.
Maybe all the focus on science and facts makes Mags come off as nerdy. That might supplement negative views on it.

[xmetal2001]

People don't like mags for a couple of reasons.

1)They aren't too expensive
2)They are too simple to work good(not true)
3)You can't do millions of upgrades
4)They aren't the best looking guns

[Dr.StockClass]

This just go to show how much of an aftermarket driven sport this is and how hype is so capable of bludgeoning common sense into a pulp with elves.

[korrupt]

i like mags so much that i am trading my cocker form one tonight! The cocker and mag people are just 2
different people!