filming paintball questions

[speedballbanks]

yeah get a mini dv that is what my cousin has he has a sony trv17 he bought it in new york right near the towers and got it for like 650 (don't ask) it is a mini dv digital zoom picture effects and he has it on a mac and he has final cut pro and i-movie and they are great editing progs and it is super fast when you want to import the movies onto the comp.

[magc68]

WOW!!!!!

thanks for info guys but r u way out of my leauge. im not looking into producing anything just for fun but i want some good stuff. waht u listed is nice stuff but too far for me yet. as i said im looking in the $500 range for a camcorder. mini dv looks like the way to go so i will definatly look into them. i will be using ebay for this since i can get a better deal. with this what do u guys recommend.

[Hasty8]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=1338231024

magc68. this camera should be perfect for your needs. 400 bucks. Then get this:

http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=50055383

This was my starter setup for video editing. IT comes with a 1394 card and the Studio DV software is pretty good. It should be more than adequate for your needs.

The last thing you will need is a large storage facility and for that I highly recommed this drive:

http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=289694

Remember, you will need 50 MB for every 20 minutes of video captured at preview quality (4 GB for every 20 minutes of finished movie). I say go with the external drive because you can daisy chain these puppys. Actually, I didn't know they had 160 gig, I have 6 80 gig. I think I might get two of the 160's when I get my tax refund.

*edit - The pinnacle software does not require you to download the entire film to disk. IT will just take the entire tape in preview mode, which is of a much lower quality and will sort of put over it a timecode. You can then mess around with the film and edit it in the software.

Then when you are done you can have the software make the final copy. IT rereads the entire film but only takes those sections that you put into your time frame. It chooses the right pieces because of the timecode that it initially stuck over the video at first reading.

I only recommend getting the drive because I like using a lot of my work as stock footage for my other projects. - end edit*

The cool thing about this is that with this setup you could easily start a minor video service like I did. I sold my services to those families that cound't really afford a high priced video crew for weddings and other special occasions. I have two or three friends who help me out and the family's pay about 300 bucks for a truly professional quality film.

I just did my grandparetnts 50th anniversary film and it came out great.

[Gup44]

Ask Brad from 720Video... they did the supertour video. They do paintball video. He'd probably be able to tell you whats the best. They do excellent work.

www.720video.com

[Hasty8]

Gup. He has a limited budget. He can't afford the best.

BEsides, 720 is a semi professional or for all I know a totally professional studio. I'm willing to bet they use camera in the 6 - 12,000 dollar range.

[Gup44]

Brad is a good guy and very knowledgeable, he'll be able to steer you in the right direction in your price range!! He's got a nice emag too!! He..he..

-Gup

[oldsoldier]

Ok, I really dont know too much ab out filming, but I do know bargains. I went to Circuit City to look for a cheaqp cam. Picked up a Canon es75 for $200. Came with a case and tripod. Has a few cool features, like sports which keeps it from blurring, stuff like that. I picked it up for the same reason. IT is hi8. Cool thing is, guy who sold it to me also plays. So, picked up a player too! (he shoots a spyder, but no one is perfect).

[Paintballer86]

Originally posted by Hasty8
BEsides, 720 is a semi professional or for all I know a totally professional studio. I'm willing to bet they use camera in the 6 - 12,000 dollar range.

they use XL-1's :)

[BradPalooza]

Hi all,
720 currently has 2 GL-1's and an XL-1 with another XL-1 in our future. The GL-1 has image quality comparable to the XL-1, makes a smaller target, and has decent image stabilization. The XL-1 has MUCH better image stabilization and audio capabilities. Both, by the way, use optical image stabilization instead of digital (image quality gets degraded when it is manipulated digitally).

I can't comment on bargain camera's other than to try looking at Circuit City for their open box buys. You get a good price and you can easily take it back if it doesn't suit your needs.

Whatever you get, have it added to your/your parents homeowners insurance if you aren't using it for a business. It adds about $10 per year and covers you if it gets broken, damaged, lost, stolen, etc. It does NOT cover regular mechanical failure though.

For editing, If you go to www.adstech.com you can get a firewire card and a FULL version of Adobe Premiere for $299. An excellent buy if you consider the retail price of Premiere alone.

If you have any questions, let me know...
-Brad

[cphilip]

Ha ha ha ha ha - $299!....well I got FireWire and iMovie already standard built inot in the Power MAC! In fact its in all the iMacs too!

Sorry! Another shamless anti Windows post. Don't you just hate those? I am using Windows right now as a matter of fact. But use the Macs for graphics and video stuff when I can.

Anyway... Mini DV or DV...what ever...Digital is what I was getting at. I guess I was refering to Mini at least I think it is from the pictures of the size of the cartridge posted here. I still can't get to the Sony yet though to see the model #.

[mrhooie]

I'll throw my 2cents in here

miniDV - best way to go - 8mm is all but dead

I see a lot of people doing the sony mantra.. Check out Panasonics line of miniDV camcorders.. More camera for the money (and lighter)

I sell both, and (in canada) a $1200 panasonic is worth about a $1500 Sony)

[magc68]

lots of info... thanks guys. when i get closer to actually purchasing a camera i will pm a few of u who seem to understand what im looking for. thanks again.

i should be looking at a mid -high level miniDV and adobe software correct?

[martlet1]

profeel

I found the cheapest place to buy a new camera was www.profeel.com. I bought my SONY TRV DV for about $1000.oo and it rocks. But the price has come down to around 600 bucks on it. If you look at circuit city, their prices are about 400 bucks higher than on the internet. Profeel shipped next day air for free, and the camera rocks. I take video constantly at the field and it lets you adjust the light settings or it does it automatically.
I think they are out of new york city. I cant remember.