Ban Brass Eagle: Viewloader And Jt

[HoppysMag]

Ya the proteus already has problems. And so what they now make barrels. does that mean if i take a piece of PVC piping and sell it as a barrel its good?? And then all my VL's are PRE BE. My JT mask is also PRE BE. And when it comes time for a new mask, which will be this year, im getting Scott, or a Diablo Skull. BE also makes Nitro tanks and barrels along with harnesses. i dont know bout you but i would kill someone if they tried to put BE paintballs in my gun.... A friend bought a case of BE paint, the balls are just rolling around in the box. No plastic bag... Just sitting there.

[OldSchoolMag]

Hoppy, so you're saying make paintball guns more expensive, so that the kids with $30 won't buy them, because if they're only going to spend $30, they're obviously vandals. Appearently it's common knowledge that deviants have a low budget. News flash: ALL TYPES OF PEOPLE DO BAD THINGS! Don't single out a company because they make cheaper (and inferior, but that's neither here nor there) products! This is becoming a flame war, I'm out.

OSM

[liigod]

I like JT goggles. Their pants are good. I dont like any brass eagle guns. but i love capitalism. And they are the expression of it in the paintballworld. YAY CAPITALISM! so more power to brass eagle.

[mitch]

well i have to agree i hate BEand all their products. i was puttin BE paint into my hopper from a tube for my science project which paintball is the best and 4 of them broke going in.. by the way brass eagle was the worst by a longshot. anyways i have never seen a BE gun at a rec game or a tourney. never once have i played or seen one at a feild... all of BE's crap sucks.... they make nothing good. not one of brass eagles products is good. besides like jt and viewloader i like them but the be products sucks. like the rain maker. that is a pos. i saw a guy using one once(not at a feild) and it did not work. all it did was plop paint out the barrel in big globs... it sucks. but you can't blame Brass eagle for being a ****ty company nor selling to walmart so that punk kids by them and shoot little people on the street...... just last month an old lady in a walmart parking lot here lost here eye sight in one eye because a kid shot her with a raptor...... camon now you can't not blame it on BE. BE would make enoguh money if they sold their products to real paintball stores. if someone actually wanted to play paintball not shoot peop-le walking on the streets they would go to a real paintball store and buy a gun...... also if you are actually going to play paintball why would you not buy a spyder compact for the same price as a be raptor. better gun for the same price...... i just wish brass eagle would sell their equipment to real paintball stores not wal mart and crappy tire....

juat my 2 cents...

just think about it!!!!!! they would still make money if they sold to a real paintball store.... just punk kids would not buy them to go shoot someones eye out on the streets.!!!!!!!!!!!

[mitch]

OLDSCHOOLMAG:
if you only have 3o dollars in your pocket you won't be playing paintball on that budget. paintball is an expensive sport and 30 bucks isn't going to get you very ar. yay half a case of paintballs and no gun to use them with

[pumpamatic]

Originally posted by Spaceman613
So we need to ban cars because drunk drivers kill people? Do we need to ban spray paint because of vandals??

Get a clue, its not a companies fault that thier products are used in crime. Its the criminal, not the tool

Then why is the government currently suing so many firearms manufacturers?

[Nitroduck]

Um.......

If we boycotted greedy companies that sued other companies, half the companies in paintball would be bankrupt.

FYI, even though not everyone likes the fact they sell at walmart, I can say it got alot of people into paintball, Im one of them.

Personally I dislike most BE stuff, but if it wasn't for BE, I wouldnt be playing paintball.

[HoppysMag]

OLDSCHOOLMAG What dont you understand about my OPINION... All im saying is sure its good for paintball, but it will hurt us too! i never said what BE should do. Frankly all im sayin is thier stuff sucks and there cheap products that mabey great for kids or limited income people but its going to burn us in the end!! Why dont you get that through your skull? I never said to ban them, i never said they needed to raise prices i am stating my OPINION!!! IT WILL contribute to the downfall of paintball. IS IT HUMANLY POSSIBLE FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND THIS!!

[Hysperion]

Spaceman your post is utterly useless and pointless. When you have something intelligent to say I'd love to hear it. Until then please refrain from posting because you're taking up server spacec.
Spaceman: "So we need to ban cars because drunk drivers kill people? Do we need to ban spray paint because of vandals??"
The difference is is that we don't sell go-karts (because you can't call Brass Eagle "toys" paintball markers) to people at bars and we don't sell spray paint to people at the mall....that is what BE does, they sell guns to people who can use them without proper knowledge of safety or to people who don't care about paintball's image. I know people who have been told that "wearing a mask isn't necessary" while buying equipment for the first time. I for one think Brass Eagle is ruining the industry. And HoppysMag is absolutely correct, when's the last time you saw someone with a non-stolen Angel or E-mag shooting up cars on the street. It's always something they picked up at Wal-Mart or Toys R' US. Wal-Mart and Dunham's shouldn't even be allowed to sell paintball markers.

[OldSchoolMag]

[Hysperion]

"I don't know why so many people here are saying that BE is responsible for bringing people into the sport."

I agree with this 100%, I never see people using Brass Eagle products at fields. Why would you want to? The piranha rental guns that 90% of the fields use are better then them. The people that use Brass Eagle stuff are the ones that go out in the parks and play illegally (granted not everyone who buys a BE gun does this but the percentage who do is higher then any other marker guaranteed). And I have no problem with Brass Eagle selling stuff cheap. Just not at Wal-Mart, Dunham's, Dick's etc. Why not at paintball shops? The reason Brass Eagle sells at Wal-mart is they know that no self respecting paintball store will carry their line of products. And JT is crap now, look at the proteus. JT never had a safety issue with a product until BE took over. And look how long it took for BE to get the X-board in the Revvy's, before that they made them crappier then the originals with thinner plastic. The only reason so many people use them is because they own the patent rights to that idea and it's a good idea but now that Odyssey has a product that is nothing similiar, they sue realizing that they're gonna lose money.

[Hysperion]

OldSchoolMag: "Because Wal-Mart employees and staff are unaware and uneducated about paintball safety, it's the greedy soulless BE execs that are laughing? Hell, if anything, they're trying to stop them from doing it! Look at all the warnings..."

A word of advice from an educated person like a paintball shop employee is worth more then 50,000 warnings that noone reads anyways. If they wanted to stop them from doing it they wouldn't market their products to Wal-Mart, (K) Crap-Mart, and target.

[OldSchoolMag]

The Wal-Mart demographic is a market that makes them money, period. If you're making money (and they are) then you're not gonna up and leave because people won't read warnings and staff ends up telling people the wrong information.

It sucks people get hurt because others are stupid, I agree, but unless you wanna take a lawn chair (which Wal-Mart conveniently sells for $19.99, prices are rolling back, baby!) and camp out in the sporting goods section with a sign that reads "These people know nothing, NOTHING about paintball guns! Go somewhere else, you deviant vandals you!" at every Wal-Mart in the United States, then absolutely nothing will happen. That's just the way it is, kids!

OSM

[GallagherAtWar]

looks like nobodys with ya :)

and also looks like your plan back fired

also why is BE sueing?? any 1 know?

Chri$

[hardr0ck68]

"Then why is the government currently suing so many firearms manufacturers?"

for trigger locks, other than trigger locks and safties the courts decided there was no case aginst firearms companies...i belive the supream court judge was quoted as saying "knives cut, guns fire projectiles that rip flesh...to sue a gun company for making a gun that kills is akin to suing GM because a cavalier was used in a hit and run"

also why is BE sueing?? any 1 know?

they think the HALO is a knock off of the EGG, when they bought Viewloader they bought all the plans and pattents the company had...when the guys that made the HALO jumped ship (cant blame them) they "invented" the HALO which is 75% the same as a egg...