It's time for a new automag body... a "resurrection" automag

[Justus]

this detent system has already been done.doc machine uses them on his mag to cocker adapters.

This is what I was thinking the whole time reading this thread. Take away the nubbins and the weight, and the speed of stripping out a twist lock barrel wins over cocker threads. Only problem then becomes availability, as a lot of manufacturers already fail to make TL barrels.

But making ULE bodies designed for TL barrels and without detent holes, and then integrating a lightweight aluminum version of the TL-cocker adapter is feasible and a more cost effective way of doing this.

[Spider-TW]

I think Luke has made everything except a body...

[rukh013]

I think Luke has made everything except a body...

XMT's on it but IF there is interest I'm getting it cut to test... i'll post up results

[BLachance75]

CCM bolts have slots milled into them so that the bolt doesn't cut the detent off. I don't think there is any one perfect way but I personally would go for having to do more work to replace a hidden detent and have a more visually appealing body.

[BLachance75]

XMT's on it but IF there is interest I'm getting it cut to test... i'll post up results

I already paid for a Ripper body only. If you and he come up with a good way of doing this let me know. I'm definitely interested and I would get a Ripper rail and the mod.

[rukh013]

CCM bolts have slots milled into them so that the bolt doesn't cut the detent off. I don't think there is any one perfect way but I personally would go for having to do more work to replace a hidden detent and have a more visually appealing body.

Thats what i want as well hench the S6.5 I took it from. It is the best design i've seen for the detent, it gives the detent finger somewhere to go

[rukh013]

I already paid for a Ripper body only. If you and he come up with a good way of doing this let me know. I'm definitely interested and I would get a Ripper rail and the mod.

ASK XMT... I'm hoping to lower the cost stated by getting more "testers" onboard

[C_losjoker]

Didn't someone do a draw up a new body that had hidden/flush detents on the sides? It was sick looking design too.

[OPBN]

ASK XMT... I'm hoping to lower the cost stated by getting more "testers" onboard

I'd possibly be interested in a Ripper body if the pricing was able to be reduced. Also not looking to be a guinea pig either. Someone needs to prove the validity of the design before I would be fully onboard.

Edit: Question as I am not familiar with these types of detents. Is the only part that sticks through the "finger"? If so, wouldn't all that needs to be done is to drill a hole through the body and mill a shallow pocket in the rail?

[Spider-TW]

I'd possibly be interested in a Ripper body if the pricing was able to be reduced. Also not looking to be a guinea pig either. Someone needs to prove the validity of the design before I would be fully onboard.

Edit: Question as I am not familiar with these types of detents. Is the only part that sticks through the "finger"? If so, wouldn't all that needs to be done is to drill a hole through the body and mill a shallow pocket in the rail?

You also need a little slot on the bore side for the finger to fold into (or other space), so it's usually three operations with some small tool bits.

I did just pick up a classic mag with a power feed body...do you smell money burning?

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You may need to be careful about the rail you use with this. Something like Luke's ultra light at least may not cover the detents fully.

[BLachance75]

That's why I suggested the oring type detents. I would imagine it should be easier to machine. A groove on each side of the front frame screw in the rail and matching grooves in the body.

[OPBN]

You also need a little slot on the bore side for the finger to fold into (or other space), so it's usually three operations with some small tool bits.

I did just pick up a classic mag with a power feed body...do you smell money burning?

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You may need to be careful about the rail you use with this. Something like Luke's ultra light at least may not cover the detents fully.

Ok, so a drill bit, a couple of files to make the groove for the finger to bend in and that should be it right? Wondering if something like the Armada rail would work? Think the ULE milling would be too severe. But if that was the case, it could probably be rigged in by taping it or bunching up something under it to keep it in place right? Part of my fear would be the bolt sheering it off.

[BLachance75]

I did just pick up a classic mag with a power feed body...do you smell money burning?

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You may need to be careful about the rail you use with this. Something like Luke's ultra light at least may not cover the detents fully.

I got one of those $110 ULE classic mags from Hawaii. I think I need t go send a PM or 2 to some people on MCB.

[rukh013]

That's why I suggested the oring type detents. I would imagine it should be easier to machine. A groove on each side of the front frame screw in the rail and matching grooves in the body.

like the ASP phantom detents?

[BLachance75]

Exactlly

Here is a quick picture showing where I think they would be. I attached a picture of the CCM T2 milling for reference.



I sent a PM to someone on MCB, I'll let you know what comes of it.