Loopy Angel_Mag

[Frizzle Fry]

Eyeball test says no. But my eyeballs aren't qualified.

Which trigger pivot point are you using? IR3s had three to choose from for a extra customization...

You could use the one all the way to the front or back for your axle, and use the opposite for a "pull-pin" safety - sort of a hybrid of the Benchmark safety assembly and the Emag power plug.

[Patron God of Pirates]

Which trigger pivot point are you using? IR3s had three to choose from for a extra customization...

You could use the one all the way to the front or back for your axle, and use the opposite for a "pull-pin" safety - sort of a hybrid of the Benchmark safety assembly and the Emag power plug.

Genius! I'm using the middle one so the first hole should work for that.

[debruynda]

Looks cool mang! I like that angel frame. Any idea what why WDP designed it that way?

[Nobody]

accessing memory banks:

back in 2000/2001, the powers that be thought that with the prevalence of electros, there were safety concerns over people cutting off trigger guards to put double triggers on guns or just having exposed triggers, for both electros and mechs allowing the guns to be fired even while having barrel plugs. if the trigger guard was removed and there was nothing protecting the trigger from accidentally being pushed/pulled from firing the gun while in the safety zones. so barrel plugs being illegal because they could be shot out and not under control(which goes more with bouncing electros) within a multiple string and full trigger guards OR any cut trigger guards being deemed illegal. so WDP and Brass Eagle made the Angel and Rainmaker with full hand guards. they were the only 2 to actually follow the full letter of the rules. somehow most people had laughed at how they looked and made just normal trigger guards around the trigger. so for about a year Angels came with the full hand guard and Rainmakers had started to die a slow but quiet death.

hope that explains it for you.

[Frizzle Fry]

accessing memory banks:

back in 2000/2001, the powers that be thought that with the prevalence of electros, there were safety concerns over people cutting off trigger guards to put double triggers on guns or just having exposed triggers, for both electros and mechs allowing the guns to be fired even while having barrel plugs. if the trigger guard was removed and there was nothing protecting the trigger from accidentally being pushed/pulled from firing the gun while in the safety zones. so barrel plugs being illegal because they could be shot out and not under control(which goes more with bouncing electros) within a multiple string and full trigger guards OR any cut trigger guards being deemed illegal. so WDP and Brass Eagle made the Angel and Rainmaker with full hand guards. they were the only 2 to actually follow the full letter of the rules. somehow most people had laughed at how they looked and made just normal trigger guards around the trigger. so for about a year Angels came with the full hand guard and Rainmakers had started to die a slow but quiet death.

hope that explains it for you.

True... But not for Angel. That applies to the Rainmaker, several of the other BE blowbacks, and a few of the Bob Long blowbacks. Happened around '99, and it wasn't law, just a suggestion.

In 1999 WDP started making the LCD which had a unique 45 frame and a factory double trigger, eliminating the need to cut the guard (as many people did with pre-LCD Angels, the vast majority of which were factory single trigger and took true 45 panels). It wasn't until mid '02 that the IR3 was released, and the 90 degree Space Frame was primarily an answer to the issue of the time; everyone seemed to be shooting praying-mantis style with is tough with a 45 frame, but AGDs Z-grip solution was difficult to shot properly on the fly. With the adjustable trigger points and extra long swooped trigger on the "Cutlass" Space Frame, you can pull down rather than back on the trigger to fire - by hooking your fingers on the oversized guard, you effectively have a y-frame.

[debruynda]

accessing memory banks:

back in 2000/2001, the powers that be thought that with the prevalence of electros, there were safety concerns over people cutting off trigger guards to put double triggers on guns or just having exposed triggers, for both electros and mechs allowing the guns to be fired even while having barrel plugs. if the trigger guard was removed and there was nothing protecting the trigger from accidentally being pushed/pulled from firing the gun while in the safety zones. so barrel plugs being illegal because they could be shot out and not under control(which goes more with bouncing electros) within a multiple string and full trigger guards OR any cut trigger guards being deemed illegal. so WDP and Brass Eagle made the Angel and Rainmaker with full hand guards. they were the only 2 to actually follow the full letter of the rules. somehow most people had laughed at how they looked and made just normal trigger guards around the trigger. so for about a year Angels came with the full hand guard and Rainmakers had started to die a slow but quiet death.

hope that explains it for you.

Yep.

I think it is cool that they extended the trigger guard from an aesthetic perspective, but completely unnecessary. I have never owned or played with an electro from this era, were they not equipped with a safety mode or something that could have stopped them from firing? I had a cut trigger guard on my old mag a long time ago and didn't have any trouble with it going off unintentionally, especially with the safety on. But, I'll venture a guess that the story is much different when dealing with a sensitive micro-switch.

[Spider-TW]

Yep.

I think it is cool that they extended the trigger guard from an aesthetic perspective, but completely unnecessary. I have never owned or played with an electro from this era, were they not equipped with a safety mode or something that could have stopped them from firing? I had a cut trigger guard on my old mag a long time ago and didn't have any trouble with it going off unintentionally, especially with the safety on. But, I'll venture a guess that the story is much different when dealing with a sensitive micro-switch.

At least the early electros had slide switches that were easy to set on or off. On the pushbutton electros you have to hold the button down for a second or two and wait for it to shutoff or startup. It's a pain and those triggers really do need a disconnect. I hate sneaking through the woods and having a twig get on my trigger and fire my marker for me.

I've often considered getting an IR3 CNC just for the body and frame, but I barely get along with the electros I have.

[Frizzle Fry]

Yep.

I think it is cool that they extended the trigger guard from an aesthetic perspective, but completely unnecessary. I have never owned or played with an electro from this era, were they not equipped with a safety mode or something that could have stopped them from firing? I had a cut trigger guard on my old mag a long time ago and didn't have any trouble with it going off unintentionally, especially with the safety on. But, I'll venture a guess that the story is much different when dealing with a sensitive micro-switch.

Again, the trigger guard served a function.

Also, the board used an optical sensor rather than a microswitch. Your "safety" is the power switch on the back of the gun, a small on/off toggle. When the marker boots up, it is in "safe mode", and can be switched into live-fire mode by holding down a button on the back of the frame for a few seconds. When it is booted with the trigger held, you enter "programming mode". The IR3 was supposed to be the Cadillac of paintball markers; it had more features than anything before it (and many after it), even with the bogus infrared tech promises.