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  • toconnor318
    Registered User
    • Feb 2014
    • 19

    #1

    41 and new to paintball

    OK, let's get one thing straight, I do not reside in my parents basement. I played for the first time this weekend due to a X-mas gift to my step-son. To say the least, we had a lot of fun. Not knowing anything about paintball markers, I bought him a Gryphon package from Dick's. It was more than adequate for him, the problem was with my rental. After a LITTLE research I ended up buying this off ebay.

    You all being the experts, what do I need to do to make this a reliable, fire and forget marker that I do not need to fuss with.

    Any information would be appreciated.

    RT AUTOMAG

    by arigun designs

    Recommended input is 600-800 psi

    black metal front handle and grip in excellent condition with dye grips

    custom products barrel about 10 inches long

    above the frame on the back slide says rt04104 and 3000 psi

    Trigger guard says AGD

    Gun says*Compressed air*or Nitrogen only

    *

    NITRO DUCK TANK

    brass end spins easily(i assume that is to adjust the regulaor)

    one gauge says 0-5000 psi and use no oil

    other gauge says 0-1200 psi and use no oil also this gauge says 300 psi in the tank

    says made in usa and sn 024272

    luxfer number p11a-1

    tc-su 5134-310

    month 11 year 06

    DOT-E 10915-4500

    KF 2899 LUXFER,
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    Last edited by toconnor318; 02-04-2014, 12:23 PM. Reason: Adding photos
  • Swiss Cheeze
    Happy Festivus!

    • Feb 2008
    • 461

    #2
    Never to old to play pb. Also welcome to AO. You have come to the right place, but I am not the right guy to help since I am practically useless when it comes to tech stuff.

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    • bbotts77
      Dirty Frank
      • Oct 2009
      • 558

      #3
      Welcome to the family!
      You've got an RT Classic.
      You will probably need to get that tank hydro tested. If there's a SCUBA shop near you, they can tell you if there is a local place that does hydro testing. Otherwise, Ninja Paintball does it. That's who I linked. Once that's done, get some macroline connected from the fitting on the rail to the tank and air it up. I would start with the pressure adjusted so the 0-1200 gauge reads ~850. Let us know what the marker does from there. We should be able to help fix any problems you may be experiencing with it.
      Last edited by bbotts77; 02-04-2014, 12:56 PM. Reason: deleted incorrect rebuild kit

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      • Spider-TW
        U R techno-literate!

        • Oct 2006
        • 3554

        #4
        First easy thing, you need a feed plug like the one on the left, not like the one on the right...

        img1169.jpg

        The flat spot on the right one can cause chopping.

        If it doesn't leak, you are probably good, but you will probably want a force feed loader, like a Rotor. That will need a good elbow for mounting. Any local elbow will do to get on the field, but keep an eye out for ones made from more resilient plastics.

        It may need a seal kit. Of all of the varieties of mags, the "Classic RT" is somewhat on its own and you generally just use parts (other than seals) from other classic RTs or custom parts made for classic RTs. Few AGD parts from the other mags will drop-in.


        Originally posted by toconnor318
        NITRO DUCK TANK

        month 11 year 06

        DOT-E 10915-4500

        KF 2899 LUXFER,
        Ducks are a bit old and getting thin on support. Your tank is also out of hydro-test (every 5 years). If you have a local test facility, you might want to just get it tested (~$30) and see if it will motor-on. Otherwise, you can always send it in to Ninja for test and trade out of the regulator for a high pressure output reg ($90?). That would mean an ASA, and maybe a drop also (another $30-$50). So, yeah, the tank is a slight weak spot.


        A Level 10 bolt will work in an RT. They are very nice if you don't mind the setup. I would get the loader and bottle straightened out first though. RT's are only as good as their feed source. And this all assumes you have a good face mask that you like.

        Welcome!

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        • cockerpunk
          Haters Gonna Hate
          • Sep 2004
          • 1383

          #5
          welcome to the sport!

          thats probably not the setup i would have recommended you start with for both you and your step son, but never mind, as long as it works, you should have a great time. this is not the time in your paintball career to be bogged down in all the sillyness is that in paintball gear lets just get busy to having fun

          tips:

          1. buy a good mask. go to a paintball shop, and try them all on, and regardless of price, buy the one you like the most. its the most essential part of your gear, and it keeping you comfortable and fog free is step 1 to having fun in paintball. its impossible to have fun with a mask that you hate. don;t worry, a mask will last 2 or 3 years, and the lenses are replaceable, so you will get your monies worth.

          in your case, your next step is going to be a loader. a nice, fast, simple, reliable loader. rotors are gosh darn expensive, and i don't think they are worth it. nice loader and all, but way way to much money. a nice halo too, or even the vmaxx might be what you want instead.

          then ... go and have a good time!
          "because every vengeful cop with a lesbian daughter, is having a bad day, and looking for someone to blame"

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          • Billz804
            Registered User

            • Apr 2005
            • 335

            #6
            After skimming through your information, you're also going to need to have that air tank re-hydrotested, as it is beyond its expiration date.

            Throw up a picture of the gun if you get a chance!

            Edit: Shoulda refreshed, someone beat me to the tank info! :dance:

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            • toconnor318
              Registered User
              • Feb 2014
              • 19

              #7
              [QUOTE=cockerpunk;2851859]welcome to the sport!

              thats probably not the setup i would have recommended!

              Thanks for information. What would you have recommended? I haven't even received this marker yet. I could always relist it after installing the air hose.

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              • BTAutoMag
                AO's Problem Child
                • Oct 2001
                • 7199

                #8
                what's your location? chances are there's one of us in the area
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                • toconnor318
                  Registered User
                  • Feb 2014
                  • 19

                  #9
                  Recomendations?

                  [QUOTE=cockerpunk;2851859]welcome to the sport!

                  thats probably not the setup i would have recommended you start with for both you and your step son, but never mind, as long as it works, you should have a great time.

                  Thanks for the information but what would you have recommended? I can always turn that one around after installing an air hose.

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                  • toconnor318
                    Registered User
                    • Feb 2014
                    • 19

                    #10
                    West Springfield, MA

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                    • blackdeath1k
                      Registered User
                      • Jan 2002
                      • 2436

                      #11
                      Is the reg ss or brass? If thats an ss reg that be a megareg system I'm spotting. Still kicking myself for selling mine. Best adjustable reg I ever owned.

                      Classic RTs are great. Some hate the banjo bold for the gas through rail. I love mine. To each there own. While getting used to the gun keep your input in the 850-900 range. Once your used to using it you can see how much trigger reactivity you want based on upping the input pressure.

                      Deff not my first choice for a newbie gun. But great gun. Been using and abusing mine since 97.

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                      • cockerpunk
                        Haters Gonna Hate
                        • Sep 2004
                        • 1383

                        #12
                        [QUOTE=toconnor318;2851867]
                        Originally posted by cockerpunk
                        welcome to the sport!

                        thats probably not the setup i would have recommended!

                        Thanks for information. What would you have recommended? I haven't even received this marker yet. I could always relist it after installing the air hose.
                        as long as it works and doesn't leak, that would be unnecessary. i would have advised you to buy something new, that is known to work, and have factory support, and a warranty etc etc. no one wants to be battling there equipment there first few times out.

                        like everything you buy on Ebay, you bought a question mark. it might work great, in fact after a bit of work, i know it will work great (i love classic RTs). if you are a pretty hands on mechanical guy, automags are very simple, easy to troubleshoot guns. id wait until it arrives and try it out before selling it.

                        heres me balling with my classic RT:



                        EDIT: like everyone said, the tank is old, and will need rehyrdo for sure.
                        Last edited by cockerpunk; 02-04-2014, 03:53 PM.
                        "because every vengeful cop with a lesbian daughter, is having a bad day, and looking for someone to blame"

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                        • cockerpunk
                          Haters Gonna Hate
                          • Sep 2004
                          • 1383

                          #13
                          BTW this is the tech video on your gun:

                          "because every vengeful cop with a lesbian daughter, is having a bad day, and looking for someone to blame"

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                          • vintage
                            Registered User

                            • Aug 2013
                            • 1787

                            #14
                            if you want to use the tank for a shoulder stock you'll probably have to reconfigure your setup. its not hard and the options are numerous. you might also have to have a different barrel since most of the ones that age are too large for todays paint, something I found out after a 15 year hiatus. a halo hopper is a good start if you want a high rate of fire without spending over $100.00. you can get a spare parts kit on here from Tuna or from AGD themselves and if its been sitting for a while it will probably need it. also get a bottle of oil for markers, AGD recommends Auto Lube and put a couple of drops in where your tank screws in every time you use it.

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                            • fullofpaint
                              Registered User
                              • Apr 2005
                              • 334

                              #15
                              Hey dude! Swing by Xtreme PB, we're right in West Springfield! Joe can help you out iwth everything to get you ready to rock:

                              683 Westfield St
                              West Springfield MA 01089
                              413-626-8212

                              Not sure if he'll have parts for an automag, like everyone said the classic is kind of it's own thing.

                              Also make sure you come out to play with us, we're right over in Agawam! Love seeing automags out on the field.

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