The breeding cycle of the Classic Automag.

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  • Spider-TW
    U R techno-literate!

    • Oct 2006
    • 3554

    #16
    Originally posted by Nobody
    we did, that was back in the 90's, then the 2000's, and now in 2014, they are still kicking and no one needed to resurrect the guns.
    I think a lot of it died starting around 2005 with the unlimited ROF electros. At that point, we were free to unleash RTs and X-valves for all they were worth. Then the high pressure ninja regs made it easy for more people to get the air needed, and we've had to restrain our mags ever since.

    As much as we bemoan the lack of new AGD products, the lack of advertisement requires players to know something about mags and paintball before they can even find a mag. That eliminates a lot of fits and bad reviews.

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    On the subject of breeding cycles; I had one classic mag for about 12 years (imprisoned for about 7 years in an attic). Then I bought a relatively cheap mag/loader/bottle package around 2004 because I needed the loader and bottle to feed my new x-valve. I thought I would just pneu the extra mag, but that one has turned into a steady stream of mags and mods. I still have most of the pieces of my first classic mag in service, scattered across various builds. It's more like pollination.
    Last edited by Spider-TW; 02-12-2014, 11:05 AM.

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    • vintage
      Registered User

      • Aug 2013
      • 1787

      #17
      or in my case you start buying cheap splash parts in the early 2000's and then need markers to display it all on.

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      • blackdeath1k
        Registered User
        • Jan 2002
        • 2436

        #18
        Originally posted by AGD
        LOL! This is a pretty funny thread! Maybe we will outlast the "mags suck" era!

        AGD
        It was always mags suck because they blend paint.

        Personally I think the issue was the marker could fire way faster than any loader of the day. Now that everyone has FF loaders. If the paint isn't in the breach its the loader getting the blame.

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        • Spider-TW
          U R techno-literate!

          • Oct 2006
          • 3554

          #19
          Originally posted by blackdeath1k
          It was always mags suck because they blend paint.

          Personally I think the issue was the marker could fire way faster than any loader of the day. Now that everyone has FF loaders. If the paint isn't in the breach its the loader getting the blame.
          Right? There was just no AGD loader to match the marker! The Halo helped mags out a lot.

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          • blackdeath1k
            Registered User
            • Jan 2002
            • 2436

            #20
            Originally posted by Spider-TW
            Right? There was just no AGD loader to match the marker! The Halo helped mags out a lot.
            So doesn't this mean that the mag was actually about 12 years ahead of the curve in firing capability.

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            • Skyssx
              SAFK
              • May 2001
              • 119

              #21
              Not really. There's a video floating around of some dude hopper dumping a full auto [s]SMG-68[/s] 68 special using a Halo. Which I absolutely intend to do when I get a FF loader. And an insanely large CO2 tank.

              All semi-autos were restricted by hoppers for a very long time.

              Here it is.

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              • cougar20th
                Registered User

                • Sep 2002
                • 2330

                #22
                My wife is pretty sure Automags don't breed. That they just spontaneously appear in random places around the house and stay to live.
                Originally posted by dano_____
                I keep forgetting to not feed my mags after midnight so they seem to multiply regularly.

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                • Spider-TW
                  U R techno-literate!

                  • Oct 2006
                  • 3554

                  #23
                  Originally posted by cougar20th
                  My wife is pretty sure Automags don't breed. That they just spontaneously appear in random places around the house and stay to live.
                  Wormholes. Pop! There comes another.

                  The other story to tell the wife is that it is an old marker, it just has the one new part you made for it. The part just makes it all look new. It's that good. Never mind several people can play with that marker all at once...

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                  • cougar20th
                    Registered User

                    • Sep 2002
                    • 2330

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Spider-TW
                    Wormholes. Pop! There comes another.

                    The other story to tell the wife is that it is an old marker, it just has the one new part you made for it. The part just makes it all look new. It's that good.
                    Cant she does have a clue what I have. Especially since I like flashy anodizing.
                    Originally posted by dano_____
                    I keep forgetting to not feed my mags after midnight so they seem to multiply regularly.

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                    • Patron God of Pirates
                      ~pgop1.0
                      • Apr 2002
                      • 1196

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Skyssx
                      Not really. There's a video floating around of some dude hopper dumping a full auto [s]SMG-68[/s]
                      Here it is.
                      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OU-_QvJ57Ns
                      Not to be a PITA, but that is not a full hopper, it's about 21 shots. His peek RoF was 7bps. And based on the peek to peek cycle time that is as fast as that marker can cycle:
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                      • Spider-TW
                        U R techno-literate!

                        • Oct 2006
                        • 3554

                        #26
                        Originally posted by cougar20th
                        Cant she does have a clue what I have. Especially since I like flashy anodizing.
                        That's where the basic hobby anodizing helps. Do a few parts yourself and shuffle it all around. If you can't keep track, she can't either.

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                        • Laku
                          Registered User

                          • Nov 2012
                          • 940

                          #27
                          To me it was, that I came back from a long break from playing and noticed all the new and pretty versions of mag's that had sprung out while I wasn't looking. Now I'm just collecting pretty much everything that strikes my fancy ... And Luke, XMT, renie and cougar20th just keep adding all that cool new stuff.

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                          • blackdeath1k
                            Registered User
                            • Jan 2002
                            • 2436

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Patron God of Pirates
                            Not to be a PITA, but that is not a full hopper, it's about 21 shots. His peek RoF was 7bps. And based on the peek to peek cycle time that is as fast as that marker can cycle:
                            [ATTACH=CONFIG]89072[/ATTACH]
                            You beat me to it. But you got a lot more technical. I used one of them old guns. No way. No how that they even came close to a mag. What your ears are forgetting to factor in to the sound of it. Is the clank forward and clank back of the blowback design. Basically every shot sounds like 2. And good lord did them things kick. Also. No one local needed any kind of agetated hopper around here till 95 when the main local players all bought mags and cockers. Then and only then did any of us buy agitators or shreaders. Using an agitator. And then later a revolution on my rt best I could do was 4 round d bursts without risks of the marker becoming a blender. My mag back in 05-06 was a double edged sword. One of the fastest guns on the field next to the couple upgraded cockers. BUT shoot to many fast strings of shots it would start freezing up due to co2. Once com pair became mainstream I got a scuba tank and nitroduck minireg. No more issues at all.
                            Last edited by blackdeath1k; 02-12-2014, 06:07 PM.

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                            • Skyssx
                              SAFK
                              • May 2001
                              • 119

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Patron God of Pirates
                              Not to be a PITA, but that is not a full hopper, it's about 21 shots. His peek RoF was 7bps. And based on the peek to peek cycle time that is as fast as that marker can cycle:
                              [ATTACH=CONFIG]89072[/ATTACH]
                              Science! (thanks!)

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                              • Konigballer
                                "Dusty Bottoms" on MCB

                                • Jun 2003
                                • 1254

                                #30
                                That is exactly what happened to my first mag, a bone stock new Minimag. Eventually all of the stock parts except for the body were replaced and it became a totally different gun. I ended up selling it all to fund my classic RT obsession, but I still wish I had just kept that Minimag stock and kept it. Live and learn

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