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  • Pump&Run
    Registered User
    • Feb 2014
    • 31

    #1

    Walk me through on Valves

    Lets have a comparison of Mag valves explained for the masses.

    What are they and how do they compare to one another etc. Please use this format for explaining if you don't mind and if I have left out a valve other than the classic please add it.

    RT Valve-
    Retro Valve-
    Emag-
    X Valve-
    Last edited by Pump&Run; 02-16-2014, 07:43 AM.
  • Frizzle Fry
    AO Micromag Guy
    • Mar 2009
    • 3280

    #2
    Basically it goes like this... I tried to think of all the "brands" I could off the top of my head.


    Classic: Stainless Steel.
    The old school automag valve, can run co2 but prefers HPA. Fits any standard Automag (not Sydarm, "classic" RT).

    Branding:
    68 Automag A.I.R.
    68 Micromag A.I.R.
    Minimag A.I.R.
    Automag Classic
    Minimag Classic
    Micro2000
    ProMag
    Centerfire


    Rental: Stainless Steel.
    Basically a classic valve, but branded for rental markers, and not compatible with Level 10.

    Sydarm: Steel front, Aluminum regulator back.
    Designed to work on co2. Shorter than standard Automag valve. Fits ONLY the Sydarm pistol with built in 12g co2 cartridge adapter.

    "Classic" RT: Steel front, Aluminum regulator back.
    High recharge rate, first reactive trigger! Thinner than standard Automag valve. HPA only. Fits ONLY the "classic" Automag RT with airthru rail and banjo bolt.

    Retro: Steel front, Aluminum regulator back.
    The new-style Automag valve, based on the RT Valve. HPA only. Fits any standard Automag (not Sydarm, "classic" RT).

    Branding:
    ReTro
    RT Pro
    Emag
    Micro ReTro
    Micro R/T
    Micro 2000 RT
    MicroEmag


    X-Valve: All Aluminum.
    The ULE version of the new-style Automag valve, based on the RT Valve. HPA only. Fits any standard Automag (not Sydarm, "classic" RT).

    Branding:
    RT X Pro
    Emaxx
    X Mag
    X Valve
    X
    Last edited by Frizzle Fry; 02-15-2014, 05:35 PM.

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    • SoulCoffin
      BEO Fat Baller

      • Apr 2005
      • 617

      #3
      Very nice write up, friz. I actually had wondered about all of the brandings

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      • Frizzle Fry
        AO Micromag Guy
        • Mar 2009
        • 3280

        #4
        Originally posted by SoulCoffin View Post
        Very nice write up, friz. I actually had wondered about all of the brandings
        There are more, I'm sure... I'm way to tired to remember - drove from Boston to upstate NY and back in the storm today. Sleeeeeepy.

        I should pull together an article.

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        • BTAutoMag
          AO's Problem Child
          • Oct 2001
          • 7199

          #5
          this should be stickied


          Originally posted by Frizzle Fry View Post
          Basically it goes like this... I tried to think of all the "brands" I could off the top of my head.


          Classic: Stainless Steel.
          The old school automag valve, can run co2 but prefers HPA. Fits any standard Automag (not Sydarm, "classic" RT).

          Branding:
          68 Automag A.I.R.
          68 Micromag A.I.R.
          Minimag A.I.R.
          Automag Classic
          Minimag Classic
          Micro2000
          ProMag
          Centerfire


          Rental: Stainless Steel.
          Basically a classic valve, but branded for rental markers, and not compatible with Level 10.

          Sydarm: Steel front, Aluminum regulator back.
          Designed to work on co2. Shorter than standard Automag valve. Fits ONLY the Sydarm pistol with built in 12g co2 cartridge adapter.

          "Classic" RT: Steel front, Aluminum regulator back.
          High recharge rate, first reactive trigger! Thinner than standard Automag valve. HPA only. Fits ONLY the "classic" Automag RT with airthru rail and banjo bolt.

          Retro: Steel front, Aluminum regulator back.
          The new-style Automag valve, based on the RT Valve. HPA only. Fits any standard Automag (not Sydarm, "classic" RT).

          Branding:
          ReTro
          RT Pro
          Emag
          Micro ReTro
          Micro R/T
          Micro 2000 RT
          MicroEmag


          X-Valve: All Aluminum.
          The ULE version of the new-style Automag valve, based on the RT Valve. HPA only. Fits any standard Automag (not Sydarm, "classic" RT).

          Branding:
          RT X Pro
          Emaxx
          X Mag
          X Valve
          X
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          • Frizzle Fry
            AO Micromag Guy
            • Mar 2009
            • 3280

            #6
            Originally posted by BTAutoMag View Post
            this should be stickied
            Popular vote has it... I'll start scrubbing for images and make an archive post



            Don't make me do stuff!

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            • BTAutoMag
              AO's Problem Child
              • Oct 2001
              • 7199

              #7
              I'm the popular vote? hahahahahaha
              sigpic

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              • Frizzle Fry
                AO Micromag Guy
                • Mar 2009
                • 3280

                #8
                Originally posted by BTAutoMag View Post
                I'm the popular vote? hahahahahaha
                Isn't that a scary concept




                The way I see it, there are two of you, which is two more people than are utilizing AO-Chat at the moment.

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                • knownothingmags
                  RKM 3D Designs

                  • Apr 2010
                  • 4810

                  #9
                  hidden valve.jpg
                  I use a valve like this one in this xmag
                  logoRKM 3D Designs

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                  • Frizzle Fry
                    AO Micromag Guy
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 3280

                    #10
                    Originally posted by knownothingmags View Post
                    [ATTACH=CONFIG]89085[/ATTACH]
                    I use a valve like this one in this xmag
                    Dammit Cougar - It's like marrying a Victorias Secret model, then making her wear a burqa in public.

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                    • knownothingmags
                      RKM 3D Designs

                      • Apr 2010
                      • 4810

                      #11
                      lol
                      logoRKM 3D Designs

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                      • djinnform
                        Rental Hunter

                        • Mar 2009
                        • 651

                        #12
                        What about the SS Smart Parts and the Magical Box?

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                        • Frizzle Fry
                          AO Micromag Guy
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 3280

                          #13
                          Originally posted by djinnform View Post
                          What about the SS Smart Parts and the Magical Box?
                          There you go, I knew there were holes...

                          Oh Pawlak had decals on top too, ProMags (the ones John Sosta did) had weird engraving on the top, BPS Express Promags had decal on top, and the Fox Hypermag had genuine engraving on top.

                          See how much better I am with a few hours sleep and some coffee?

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                          • Frizzle Fry
                            AO Micromag Guy
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 3280

                            #14
                            Oh and I forgot to mention on/off compatibility with the original ReTro valve, it deserves mention - D'oh


                            ***edit: more sleep, more coffee, in that order
                            Last edited by Frizzle Fry; 02-16-2014, 12:10 AM.

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                            • Justus
                              Justech.us

                              • Nov 2010
                              • 1515

                              #15
                              I always used this as my reference on valve differences: http://www.zakvetter.com/pages/paint...gd_valves.html

                              My Feedback Thread

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