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  • swe_crazy

    • Dec 2011
    • 412

    #31
    I have Splash parts that do not fit properly in the splash pattern even if it's camo splash or any another splash pattern. There was always a difference from one ano bath to another. It is a challenge to collect Splash parts.
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    • OPBN
      OldPBNoob

      • Sep 2008
      • 5240

      #32
      Originally posted by swe_crazy View Post
      I have Splash parts that do not fit properly in the splash pattern even if it's camo splash or any another splash pattern. There was always a difference from one ano bath to another. It is a challenge to collect Splash parts.
      I could understand patterns not matching, but just surprised at the difference in colors. The one is clearly darker than the other and I would actually say probably a different dye. Then again, looking closer at the new kit, there is even variances in the different parts. The stock looks darker than the PF plug.

      I just remember having a purple kit several years ago and everything seemed to be the same color. Very little color variance.
      Last edited by OPBN; 12-15-2014, 10:25 AM.
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      • smilestyler
        Ace Dentura

        • Oct 2002
        • 975

        #33
        I'm no expert but I can see where these brown kits could be harder to get some sort of consistency where kits with blacks and clears would be a lot easier.

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        • Cyco-Dude

          #34
          Originally posted by swe_crazy View Post
          It is a challenge to collect Splash parts.
          ...and this is why swe went crazy.

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          • swe_crazy

            • Dec 2011
            • 412

            #35
            Originally posted by Cyco-Dude View Post
            ...and this is why swe went crazy.
            True, true!
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            • Chrome
              Registered User
              • Apr 2009
              • 397

              #36
              Hope y'all don't mind if I borrow this thread for a bit. (Bunny, if we don't have one, maybe we need to start a sticky official splash pattern discussion thread or something?)

              I was trying to help CP finish his blue/black/gold build with this gem I remembered I had while packing up for a move, but the pattern is off enough that we just missed the mark:





              Here is CP's almost complete kit:



              So, thoughts for an accurate ID? I bought the frame off ebay and it was listed as eclipse. Seeing the pattern, it looked more like a SP to me, and after reading some of the recent discussions on here, I'm wondering if this is a good comparison between "old" vs. "new" versions of the same splash, as the colors look spot on, but the pattern of the sponge/splash gives an overall slightly different look?

              Not that I'm in any real rush, but I'm kind of thinking in the back of my head as to whether or not I want to hold on to the frame now as-is, or keep it as a candidate to strip/anno as part of a future build, considering how much of a. . . challenge. . . building a complete splash kit from parts really is these days.


              EDIT: something else I just noticed that might help build the information database, which someone with more splash parts (swe?) might be able to answer better. I looked through the pics in the archives of the splash advertising flyers. Look at the milling on the interior of my frame. I thought I saw a difference in some of the ones in the adverts, with some more metal on the skeleton of the frame. A possible quick way to accurately ID a SP vs. Eclipse standard frame? This would suggest they were milled at two different shops?

              EDIT AGAIN: on the frame milling thing, I had a moment. Check out the pic of OPBN's kit at the top of this thread. The interior milling of the camo frame is clearly different from my blue one. If these are both SP frames, what relation do they have to the pattern/production date if any? The plot thickens. . .
              Last edited by Chrome; 12-16-2014, 09:00 PM.

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              • vintage
                Registered User

                • Aug 2013
                • 1787

                #37
                Chrome you may have the same pattern just one is the golden line version and the other is the regular. I have a golden line barrel in that pattern I believe as well as the gas thru stock and the powerfeed plug and tourney lock.

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                • vintage
                  Registered User

                  • Aug 2013
                  • 1787

                  #38
                  I also have a rail and I believe a sight rail in black, red gold? patter that are the same but do not match very well as the splash was not carried over onto both sides of the sight rail in the same way.

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                  • vintage
                    Registered User

                    • Aug 2013
                    • 1787

                    #39
                    i'll start taking pics of what I have tomorrow for reference if needed.

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                    • Chrome
                      Registered User
                      • Apr 2009
                      • 397

                      #40
                      I looked back at Bunny's pic in this thread comparing standard vs. golden line. I see where you're going with regards to how aggressive the sponge is, but maybe its just me, but on my frame there just doesn't seem to be 'enough' sponge going on to look golden line, if that makes any sense?

                      If you can put up some pics, that would be great! Also, anybody with any variation on the interior milling of the standard frames to confirm my hypothesis there? I'm sure Bunny can use any/all clear (and big/high res) pics we can get for the archives if nothing else.

                      Interesting your thoughts on your black/red/gold. If you can confirm that the rail and sight rail were parts of a complete original set (not pieced together as a "set"), seeing the variation in the splash could be useful to others trying to "match" sets from individual pieces now.

                      This is fun, but I can really see how it could get expensive. . .

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                      • OPBN
                        OldPBNoob

                        • Sep 2008
                        • 5240

                        #41
                        Yeah the frame looks more sponge than splash. And honestly the sight rail looks to be a different shade of blue. And I was thinking today... Could some of the variations also be contributed to fade? Seems like I have read before that anodizing can fade. Maybe some parts that appear lighter or duller have faded some? Maybe they sat in a PB store case and were exposed to light?
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                        • vintage
                          Registered User

                          • Aug 2013
                          • 1787

                          #42
                          could be sun fade, could also be the human factor of leaving or not leaving the part in the solution the same time and so on.

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                          • vintage
                            Registered User

                            • Aug 2013
                            • 1787

                            #43
                            lots of pics just taken, waiting for the antique to boot up, update itself and then i'll fight photobucket for about an hour and then hopefully i'll get them uploaded. I have a couple that are interesting for sure.

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                            • Cyco-Dude

                              #44
                              i think the frame is a match. compare it to the vasa. sometimes it might not look like a match just because there's so little material to see the full pattern.

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                              • vintage
                                Registered User

                                • Aug 2013
                                • 1787

                                #45
                                first of all nothing is for sale

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