LL8 questions.

[steve_81]

I agree Skipdogg, I had a great time and I only have to drive 3.5 hours to the field. I'll be back again this year.

[G Squat]

Just go to TCP north. Ten times better than anything else in that state. Nobody does an event better kr more professionally than Wayne.

[cockerpunk]

LL is the event of the year worth going to. I have been to every single one, and won't be missing another year. nowhere else will you find a more diverse and crazy group of players, its just one fun thing after another.

are there growing pains? sure. last years event was ~500 people more than the year before. hell, the first living legends was only ~750 people TOTAL. now we are well over 2500. CPX is one of the all time great paintball fields. viper (as much as we have our tussles), is one of the all time great game organizers. if there is one thing he does, its listen to player feedback, chrono is changing next year, as is registration. i've been on crushingly winning teams, and been on the side that looses really bad too, and its always a fun fight. bedlam gets hairy, it does. after all these years, last year it finally got me, but after a half hour with the medics, i was right back in bedlam battling it out.

i camped a few times, that can be fun. lots of socializing and drinking. but now (in my old age) i prefer a hotel. nice to be able to get cleaned up, have a few beers, hit the hot tub etc etc. esp if you find a couple of folks to share the room with, it becomes really reasonable in terms of cost. if you are driving, and can share a hotel, and dont shoot 5+ cases, there is no reason you can't keep the price reasonable too. i hate flying to paintball events, but driving ... makes it so much easier.

[Laku]

...Nobody does an event better kr more professionally than Wayne.

I didn't know Nobody did events?

[G Squat]

I didn't know Nobody did events?

... I see what you did there.

[going_home]

Glad I didn't go last year.

Going to try and make Tunaball this year, had a good time at the last one.

[zulubravo44]

Ouch Nobody. I was there Saturday only but I had a pretty fun time. The only things I had complaints about was the registration line and the Fill station. I felt like smaller big games like Hell's Survivors Monster Game had a better system in place for registration and fill station then LL7 did. Monster Game sends out pre-registration tags and Paint cards reduce the lines to those who register the day of the event. Secondly, HSI uses tags that go onto tank regs to let the people at the fill station know that the tank was already checked and is good. I thought it was a bit odd that CPX didn't have any of this down pat yet a smaller big game had it down to a science.

I've said it before, but my one experience at an HSI big game was Global Conquest last year. Part of my issue was not having my expectations in check, since I had been reading about/dreaming about big games since the days of reading APG in middle school. This was my very first scenario game, and I had two decades of dreams stored up.

Not that I've got any experience to comment on generalities, but it seems like one must accept a certain level of chaos around big game paintball. There are never enough refs or enough support staff to make it as smooth as I want it to be, and there are always those jerks who tweak, bend and break the rules (wiping and using jerseys from other teams from past years to pose as an ally, only to blast people point blank inside a bunker are the two big examples from GC). Complaining to the refs doesn't do any good, and the field manager has a boatload of things better to do than listen to me whine. So if I go back this year, I'll have my expectations in check.

However, I will say that HSI runs a good show and everything was incredibly smooth and well-managed off the field. The intel booth (CIA) was more than helpful and explained the rules and strategy to our team of neophytes, and pretty much everyone had a great time as it relates to their interactions with staff. I didn't see anything notably unsafe, with the exception of a pretty high tolerance of overshooting (but maybe it's just been so long since I've played paintball... I used to get thrown out for hitting anyone more than three times).

I'm going to Tippman World Challenge in September at HSI, and I may be around for GC and Monster Game. I've talked to magman and some others about it, but if anyone is interested I'd be glad to provide any input on places to stay etc. I live about 20 minutes from HSI.

[BigEvil]

BigEvil's rules for playing paintball (any type)

1) Arrive
2) Raise Hell
3) Leave


Expectation management is key though. I didn't particularly think the ll7 game was all that great, however, I really didn't care. As long as the paint shoots (Which it was VERY borderline) and cool people to hang out with then it is worth it. I don't care about scenarios or points or any other in game drama and BS. On the field, point me in the right direction and I will go kill people until I run out of paint.

[dodge3500]

Why?oh why? Are the cool events soo far away?the events mentioned are like 12 to 16 hours away.
I'm bummed out .

[vintage]

Why?oh why? Are the cool events soo far away?the events mentioned are like 12 to 16 hours away.
I'm bummed out .

yea, Joliet is a 10 hour drive for me and Tunaball is a 2 day drive or fly and i'd rather drive but not by myself. bad thing is that Oklahoma DDay is a 2 hour drive and I have yet to go but since I can only do one of these events a year i'm going to try to get to New Jersey this year.

[wimag]

we have decided to not attend LL8 this year. It is an okay event but has went downhill that last few or more years in my opinion. The owners will not fix any of the issues people have been griping about as long as the money train keeps coming in.
The premise was about "legends"and now it is just a big **** show of people jostling for recognition for doing essentially nothing.

[Beemer]

I can only do one of these events a year i'm going to try to get to New Jersey this year.

"There is no try, only do or do not" [yoda] Just get a preorder going on the jerky.

[BigEvil]

I think you have Vintage mixed up with Flatliner in regards to the jerky, jerky

Just make sure your guns are ready this time :P

[Nobody]

Yeah Beemer, make sure that all your warps are in working order. Hate to hand you a gun with a blimp on top.

[steve_81]

I've said it before, but my one experience at an HSI big game was Global Conquest last year. Part of my issue was not having my expectations in check, since I had been reading about/dreaming about big games since the days of reading APG in middle school. This was my very first scenario game, and I had two decades of dreams stored up.

Not that I've got any experience to comment on generalities, but it seems like one must accept a certain level of chaos around big game paintball. There are never enough refs or enough support staff to make it as smooth as I want it to be, and there are always those jerks who tweak, bend and break the rules (wiping and using jerseys from other teams from past years to pose as an ally, only to blast people point blank inside a bunker are the two big examples from GC). Complaining to the refs doesn't do any good, and the field manager has a boatload of things better to do than listen to me whine. So if I go back this year, I'll have my expectations in check.

However, I will say that HSI runs a good show and everything was incredibly smooth and well-managed off the field. The intel booth (CIA) was more than helpful and explained the rules and strategy to our team of neophytes, and pretty much everyone had a great time as it relates to their interactions with staff. I didn't see anything notably unsafe, with the exception of a pretty high tolerance of overshooting (but maybe it's just been so long since I've played paintball... I used to get thrown out for hitting anyone more than three times).

I'm going to Tippman World Challenge in September at HSI, and I may be around for GC and Monster Game. I've talked to magman and some others about it, but if anyone is interested I'd be glad to provide any input on places to stay etc. I live about 20 minutes from HSI.

I agree Zulu. It should be expected that things like parking and registration lines (although things can be done to reduce them) especially at big games like this are always a first come first serve type of thing; Just due to the large amount of people that attend. The one complaint abount HSI's Monster Game I found to be funny was the first year they didn't have the National Guard attend with their trucks for player transports on the field. People were just beside themselves that they had to walk. As if HSI has control over the National Guard. They failed to realize those Guardsmen were over in Iraq fighting in a war....