Getting back into paintball

[b-cuzz]

Zulubravo44 makes a good point.... I put together a Micromag with a classic valve probably 10 years ago now, and even with new O-rings I couldn't get 3 different classic on/offs to seal. Just for grits and shins I put in the only other one I had, which was an R/T on/off. It actually sealed, and I tested it when I got the rest of it put back together, and I'll be honest, it has the sweetest predictable trigger pull I've ever seen on a mech. I've had an R/T Micro, and I've pulled a ULT trigger as well, but this had the right amount of stiffness for just the right duration.

[Flatliner333]

There are some very nice parts in this thread including a 20 bps Hyper Frame.

http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?271474-F-S-T-Angel-Frame-Valves-Rails-Blue-Parts-45k-Flatline-Tons-of-Mag-Parts

[1985phenom]

I have an RTX Pro valve...

[Evil1]

A guy I new close to 20 years ago had a mag with a smart parts magic box. I got to play a few games in a tournament with it because my crappy angel I had broke. I was running an original angel and that thing had problems. The later angels were better. Anyway, the smart mag was the smoothest mag I've ever shot. Nice trigger pull too. It had a reactor on/off. Real fast and no shoot down like was said with the magic box.

[going_home]

I stay away from magic box mags, just don't care for them.

And I've been told the reactor on/off was very problematic too.

[Evil1]

I stay away from magic box mags, just don't care for them.

And I've been told the reactor on/off was very problematic too.

Yeah. I don't know about the reliability of them. I just know it was really smooth running and really quiet. I bought a ult yesterday and an old air America tank off of my friend. My angel a.i.r is not working and it has to be rehyrdroed.

[MAGgot]

That magic box didn't do anything at all... nada. Complete sham.
The reactor on/off was a slight improvement, same concept as putting an RT on/off in your classic valve.

[UncleStasiu]

...same concept as putting an RT on/off in your classic valve.

Which makes for the most amazing trigger pull, to me. Light yet snappy, can't walk it, but gives me a better ROF than anything else mechanical and most electros. (Actual RT mags excepted, of course.)

[AGDRetro]

My comments were directed at AGDRetro not you.

I'm sorry I don't want to get anybody mad, that's not what AO is about. I apply douche/puss/hack to anybody shooting anything other than straight semi as well. Do I think all "pros" shooting in ramp modes are 100% skill-less? Of course not, I just prefer to see everybody playing to the best of THEIR ability - not a board or a bouncy trigger. I worked at a field where we fought the firing modes for as long as we could, regardless of the fact that we might have actually sold more paint if we didn't. Is it so wrong to have a desire to see fair play?

I was simply trying to provide the OP a simple alternative to a more costly E-build, stating that it can more than keep up - even without the SHP. I'd say however that to anybody going this route, an aftermarket trigger with stops is a must.

[cockerpunk]

playing

again, OP you should do this more than build another gun.

[going_home]

again, OP you should do this more than build another gun.

With mags its a disease.

One can turn into five overnight.

[Nobody]

again, OP you should do this more than build another gun.

Its obvious that he is playing again. So why not let the OP do what he wants and help him with wbat be wants to do? Novel concept for youm i know...

[going_home]

Be all you can be, in the AO Army !

[Evil1]

I'm sorry I don't want to get anybody mad, that's not what AO is about. I apply douche/puss/hack to anybody shooting anything other than straight semi as well. Do I think all "pros" shooting in ramp modes are 100% skill-less? Of course not, I just prefer to see everybody playing to the best of THEIR ability - not a board or a bouncy trigger. I worked at a field where we fought the firing modes for as long as we could, regardless of the fact that we might have actually sold more paint if we didn't. Is it so wrong to have a desire to see fair play?

I was simply trying to provide the OP a simple alternative to a more costly E-build, stating that it can more than keep up - even without the SHP. I'd say however that to anybody going this route, an aftermarket trigger with stops is a must.

Thanks bud. Realizing I want a mech mag. Too much tweaking with pneumags and what not. Just want a fast mag with lvl10 and ult I think. Want something I can just take out and shoot without having to screw with it every time. I've done research and whiles the frames that are aftermarket can be good, I also see they are finicky sometimes. I've also been considering emag lowers. I'd just relocate the battery. I'll just play with my angel ir3 for now and chip away at the mag.

[captian pinky]

if you want something fast with very little tinkering i would go with a hyperframe route pick up a 20 bps board or an aftermarket and go. that will require the least amount of long term teching. just be sure to swap the switch and you should be good to go.