Bringing the first production Automag valve back to life

[vintage]

the question would be how many were built using the pot metal frame? the lowest number classic valve I have is in the low 12,000's and it is a CF prefix. my first mag which I bought in 95 and was bone stock power feed has a CF 35,000 series # but it came with the pot metal frame.

[John Dresser]

Tuna may have some new classic RT rails still.

I bought one a few months ago for an RT project I'm working on.

I have a plan for the RT if I am converting it back. I do need a mainbody though.

the question would be how many were built using the pot metal frame? the lowest number classic valve I have is in the low 12,000's and it is a CF prefix. my first mag which I bought in 95 and was bone stock power feed has a CF 35,000 series # but it came with the pot metal frame.

Well, the first one certainly was. So that's not much of a mystery.

My Minimag was that I bought in either late 1993 or 1994 too.

[Sandman]

John,
Don't touch that gun!
Has the gun been updated at all from level 5? Is the sear removable? Is the ball drop breach stainless and not part of the barrel?
I can help bring the gun closer to original if it has been updated.

[John Dresser]

Hey Tim!

These are Level 7 parts on it so the sear is removable and the breach is part of the barrel. I would love to get Level 5 parts back on it, but I haven't had much luck finding them so far.

I'd also love to find a main body that is in better condition. Or get one bead (or sand or glass) blasted so it looked as new as possible but remained as original as possible.

[paint magnet]

Interesting. Are all the pre-Classic (non Minimag) valves marked CF?

As far as I know, any AGD valves bear the CF prefix. CF stands for "Center Fire," not to be confused with an actual Center Fire valve which had an additional serial number on top and a special logo laser engraved on the valve (but were internally the same).

[going_home]

If you are on a restoring kick on the RT you are better off buying a really nice shape complete marker and swapping valves.

You start buying parts and you are most likely going to be spending more money.

You can resell the modded RT with the newer valve for what ever you can get and recoup probably half of what you spent on the replacement marker.

[John Dresser]

If you are on a restoring kick on the RT you are better off buying a really nice shape complete marker and swapping valves.

You start buying parts and you are most likely going to be spending more money.

You can resell the modded RT with the newer valve for what ever you can get and recoup probably half of what you spent on the replacement marker.

I would be pretty surprised if my current modified RT Classic can only fetch half of what an unmodified/stock RT would sell for. The trick is finding one with the Eurofeed. Because if you're going to go all the way, you have to go all the way.

[Sandman]

John,
I can help you out. I have brand new standard feed bodies. I also have level 5 parts.
Let's chat sometime about getting that valve dressed a little better.
You can reach me though AGD or Fox.

[Spider-TW]

Looks like it just needs a 13 or 17 ci HPA bottle. At least you don't have to use PVC for an elbow anymore.

[going_home]

I would be pretty surprised if my current modified RT Classic can only fetch half of what an unmodified/stock RT would sell for. The trick is finding one with the Eurofeed. Because if you're going to go all the way, you have to go all the way.

You being sort of a paintball celebrity, you very well could get a higher amount than what a "far from bone stock" classic RT brings.

[bowcycle]

Sandman,
I let Bunny use my 186 for the museum. It was one of the Farside mags and I tried to get it back as close to old stock photos as possible. If it is possible to take the valve back to lvl5, I would really like to do so. It had been upgraded to lvl7, but the body and rail still have the markings for the lvl5 breech.
Let's talk.

[John Dresser]

John,
I can help you out. I have brand new standard feed bodies. I also have level 5 parts.
Let's chat sometime about getting that valve dressed a little better.
You can reach me though AGD or Fox.

Thanks Tim! I'll try to give you a call tomorrow. I am actually going to be up in Chicago this weekend for the UWL event. Lots of old timers will be there. You should come out.

You being sort of a paintball celebrity, you very well could get a higher amount than what a "far from bone stock" classic RT brings.

Lolz. I just think a vert feed RT Classic body is rare.

Sandman,
I let Bunny use my 186 for the museum. It was one of the Farside mags and I tried to get it back as close to old stock photos as possible. If it is possible to take the valve back to lvl5, I would really like to do so. It had been upgraded to lvl7, but the body and rail still have the markings for the lvl5 breech.
Let's talk.

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Got to love some Farside Mags.

[Sandman]

My gun is #154, it is still level 5 except I do not have the breach and barrel. It was never updated. It is the gun I used during the 1990 Line SI Lively International Masters Championship Tournament against Navarone to hang the flag and win the Championship......she's not pretty anymore...but she has all the history...

I also found a valve just recently Serial#3321 and found it still had a c-clip powertube....I'm not sure how that one escaped updating..

Bow, the issue is, if the valve was cut and modded to level 7 it is really unable to be taken back. It would take some serious magic to recreate some of that stainless steel that was taken away to go to level 7. The powertube for level 5 would fall in...

But hey I"m always game for restoring old mags to as much original as possible... doesn't hurt to try.

[skipdogg]

yay, 1990 masters champs. didnt know you were the one who hung the flag for the win. You should start stamping that on the boxes again...

[Flatliner333]

John, i can Media Blast that body for you if you want to send it to me.