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  • maniacmechanic
    PrestonCoPaintball
    • Aug 2006
    • 3453

    #1

    Marbilizer ??

    so who's following this GI suit ??
    What do You think ??
  • JKR
    Stainless Steel 'Mag Lover
    • Sep 2003
    • 392

    #2
    APX just gave Kee/GI a big middle finger...posted on FB by Gino...

    We at APX want to set the record straight about GI’s lawsuit against us.
    GI’s lawsuit against APX is not about protecting a patent. GI doesn’t have a patent. Kee Action Sports had a patent for blending two colors into a single gelatine ribbon - but that patent expired in 2014. The previously patented technology is now in the public domain - and everyone is free to use it. APX chose to make some paintballs using a two colored blended gelatine ribbon for simple reasons. With our Fyre grade, we think it looks cool and gives our customers a choice that is a little different. For our Dark Ops, which is made for woodsball, not only does it look cool, but its “cammo” and we think it blends in with the woods to make it harder to see coming. It seems our customers agree - our swirl paintball ball is very popular.
    What is GI claiming? That’s not entirely clear. It seems GI is claiming that GI is the only one in the world that can make a paintball using a gel ribbon with two blended colors. As we understand it, according to GI, any paintball that has a two color blended ribbon somehow “infringes” on GI’s “Marballizer.” APX disagrees.
    Specifically, GI claims that APX has “infringed” GI’s registered trademark for Marballizer paintballs by making paintballs that look like GI’s registered trademark. GI’s registered trademark looks like this:
    You might think the same thing we do. Infringe on your trademark? Really? Our paintballs don’t look anything like your trademark.
    What else is GI claiming? GI is claiming that APX is “passing off” APX “swirl” products as GI’s Marballizer. Specifically, GI claims that APX is seeking “to trade upon and/or diminish the widespread goodwill, reputation and selling power established by [GI], and to pass [APX’s] products off as those of GI.”
    Nothing could be further from the truth. We aren’t about to agree that “Marballizer” has a reputation that anyone would want, but we sure are not “trading upon” GI’s goodwill or reputation. APX markets and sells its “swirl” paintballs as “Fyre” and “Dark Ops.” All of APX’s advertising shows APX as the manufacturer, and APX’s boxes proudly display “Made in the USA.” GI sells its Marballizer in a box that says “Marballizer.” It’s well known that GI does no manufacturing in the U.S. The box labels on the Marballizer we recently purchased say that it was made in Asia. GI claims that people buy our swirl ball because they think it’s a Marballizer. We don’t know anybody that has purchased an APX “swirl” paintball thinking it was a Marballizer or that it was made by GI. Every single one of our customers knows that we made it.

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    • BigEvil
      www.BigEvilOnline.com

      • Feb 2005
      • 9333

      #3
      These kind of lawsuits are usually instigated when one believes there opposition is weak. I don't see that to be the case at all with Valken. GI could be fishing for something... just my $.02

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      • maniacmechanic
        PrestonCoPaintball
        • Aug 2006
        • 3453

        #4
        I know what its all about ,, I'm lookin about how you / we think about it

        I think it's BS

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        • BigEvil
          www.BigEvilOnline.com

          • Feb 2005
          • 9333

          #5
          Originally posted by maniacmechanic View Post
          I know what its all about ,, I'm lookin about how you / we think about it

          I think it's BS
          Absolutely. I wish GI would put as much effort into making paint that isn't total crap. I haven't shot a good case of marbs in years. Even Topgun has been slowly phasing Valken in.

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          • going_home
            Hebrews 13:8

            • Dec 2004
            • 8343

            #6
            Originally posted by BigEvil View Post
            Absolutely. I wish GI would put as much effort into making paint that isn't total crap. I haven't shot a good case of marbs in years. Even Topgun has been slowly phasing Valken in.
            Shot some APX Fyre last I played.

            I wont be buying that stuff again.

            When you pay 45 a case it should be better breaking than the 30 a case Triumph (made by GI) at Dicks, and its not.

            http://www.dickssportinggoods.com/pr...goryId=4414616

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            • JKR
              Stainless Steel 'Mag Lover
              • Sep 2003
              • 392

              #7
              Originally posted by maniacmechanic View Post
              I know what its all about ,, I'm lookin about how you / we think about it

              I think it's BS
              It is total BS. Nothing more that GI trying to save its faltering sales. They evidently can't produce quality so they are masking the stench of failure with a healthy load of crap.

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              • wetwrks
                Splatting since '85

                • Jun 2007
                • 1828

                #8
                Heh...marballizer used to be decent...back when I was paying about $90 a case...and that was cheap compared to when it was about $135 a case. I used to get it as my main ammo. Everyone else cheaped out and got the least expensive stuff they could find and then couldn't figure out why it curved so bad on them...if it even made it out of the barrel.

                Last time I tried it it was total junk. Sadly disappointed.

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                • BigEvil
                  www.BigEvilOnline.com

                  • Feb 2005
                  • 9333

                  #9
                  Originally posted by going_home View Post
                  Shot some APX Fyre last I played.

                  I wont be buying that stuff again.

                  When you pay 45 a case it should be better breaking than the 30 a case Triumph (made by GI) at Dicks, and its not.

                  http://www.dickssportinggoods.com/pr...goryId=4414616
                  If you are buying paint at Dicks or Wallymart then you have no right to complain about anything. :P

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                  • vintage
                    Registered User

                    • Aug 2013
                    • 1787

                    #10
                    i haven't shot good paint since Zap back in the 90's.

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                    • going_home
                      Hebrews 13:8

                      • Dec 2004
                      • 8343

                      #11
                      Originally posted by BigEvil View Post
                      If you are buying paint at Dicks or Wallymart then you have no right to complain about anything. :P
                      I bought the APX at Wicked Sports.

                      What I meant to say is the Triumph at Dicks is as good if not better than the more expensive APX.

                      And yes I will be buying 30 dollar paint at Dicks.

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                      • nak81783
                        Registered User
                        • Nov 2001
                        • 782

                        #12
                        Originally posted by vintage View Post
                        i haven't shot good paint since Zap back in the 90's.
                        Really that long ago? I've always thought paint took a quality dive after the early 2000s, but I didn't start playing until 1999. Sounds like I missed out on the really good stuff.
                        Last of the Salzburg Clan

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                        • maniacmechanic
                          PrestonCoPaintball
                          • Aug 2006
                          • 3453

                          #13
                          Originally posted by going_home View Post
                          I bought the APX at Wicked Sports.

                          What I meant to say is the Triumph at Dicks is as good if not better than the more expensive APX.

                          And yes I will be buying 30 dollar paint at Dicks.

                          I know you play with a church group a lot ,, you should talk with them and have them set up an account with Valken

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                          • going_home
                            Hebrews 13:8

                            • Dec 2004
                            • 8343

                            #14
                            Originally posted by maniacmechanic View Post
                            I know you play with a church group a lot ,, you should talk with them and have them set up an account with Valken
                            A local small storefront is the area GI rep, the one group pays for the paint after its sold and returns what isnt used.

                            The other group he delivers the paint and brings his 4500 compressor and supplies air for the day.

                            They are pretty locked in with him, and he does bring Valken and GI randomly, mostly what would be called field paint elsewhere.

                            Tends to be hit or miss on consistency.

                            Thats why I get my own paint.

                            I used to by Midnight from Sports Authority till it closed, I'd rate it a 7 out of 10, not bad for 30 dollars.

                            I've discovered that the Triumph from Dicks is the exact same GI paint renamed, same shell, same fill, same 30 dollars.

                            I usually shoot close to 2 cases a day, so the price tag is something that matters lol.

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                            • Evil1
                              Registered User
                              • Nov 2003
                              • 979

                              #15
                              I have been shooting the triumph from dicks. Not great, not terrible either.

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