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  • junglepeanut
    Registered User
    • Oct 2010
    • 24

    #1

    Strange Micromag?

    Hello all, so I have been an Autococker guy since the early 90's when I started playing. Only mags I have owned were stuff I bought and sold in package deals. A while ago I jumped in and bought a custom mag that caught my eye and really liked it but my true love has always been more vintage stuff and love old splash cockers. When I saw this I had to have it, love the splash and love how original it appears to be. Plus when i was a kid my local shop had an FX cocker body kit in the display case i would stop and admire but could never afford so I have a soft spot for PTP stuff.

    Anyway anyone know the history to this particular Micro? Guy I bought it from believed it to be a Team Strange marker but had no real info on why. Would there be markings hidden on it anywhere if it was? I absolutely love it either way but always like to know the history of stuff.

    So last questions (sorry this is so long) I would like to leave it original as possible and want to use the Micro valve. What's the biggest difference between it and an X valve? I don't care about weight and I actually don't care for the RT effect. Just want reliable. And I have read some of the older Micro bodies would not take a level 10 bolt kit. What exactly prevented it? And how would I know? Is it obvious like it won't fit in the breech or will it be an issue where I will never get it tuned? Like I said I am very new at these and want to dial this in so I will be asking lots if questions. Any advice is appreciated.



  • vintage
    Registered User

    • Aug 2013
    • 1787

    #2
    nice score, too bad the for grip does not match. the X valve is just an RT made our of more aluminum than any of the others. the Level 10 bolt will not go thru the stainless washer pressed into the body on most micro's with out either sanding down the lip of the bolt(recommended) or opening up the hole in the washer. the washer is to prevent excess wear to the aluminum body by the stainless bolt. the classic valve you have is perfectly reliable just make sure you use 800 psi minimum on all mag valves. I suggest you replace the power feed plug with one of the new ones from AGD.

    welcome to the addiction that is Automags.

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    • vintage
      Registered User

      • Aug 2013
      • 1787

      #3
      Bunny is our resident historian and is probably the only one who might be able to confirm if its a team Strange marker or not. the records have large holes in them.

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      • junglepeanut
        Registered User
        • Oct 2010
        • 24

        #4
        Thank you very much for the info. And am I missing something on the grip? Does not match because of the brand or anno? Anno does match but probably looks off on the pics because of the angle, the black was just not showing. Here is another pic. Or did you mean not matching because it's no a PTP product?

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        • junglepeanut
          Registered User
          • Oct 2010
          • 24

          #5
          And another noob question. Is this a level 10 bolt kit? Buddy of mine just gave me all his old gear to sell and he gave me a minimag he believed had a lvl 10 installed. I checked the bolt and it fit the Micros breech so I swapped valve setups and it shot great on the Micro.

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          • Walking Stick
            Inline Mechs

            • Jan 2007
            • 681

            #6
            Hex powertube tip and stem sticking out the back of the bolt - it is indeed a Level 10!

            You already have a grasp on the classic ss valve vs. an aluminum X or steel/aluminum ReTro - it's heavier and no Reactive Trigger.

            The gen1 fixed-barrel Micromag had no foregrip or even provision for one. The later gens all mounted via the female threads on the angled section below the barrel threads. Your arrangement, besides being a Smart Parts foregrip design, is highly atypical. It looks to be making contact with the frame's trigger guard and the top front edge does not sut flush or align with the body. See below how the PTP foregrip mounts on my gen5.
            Last edited by Walking Stick; 05-08-2018, 09:16 PM. Reason: Image Link
            >>WTB<< Sydarm w/ constant air__WarpedMephisto half-c/f body__Ac!d c/f trigger__TASO humpback frame__an Oh-Mag

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            • junglepeanut
              Registered User
              • Oct 2010
              • 24

              #7
              Got it, yes the grip is actually shaved on one edge that lines up with the trigger guard when tightened down. I have just been playing with it so it's not all aligned. And great to hear about the level 10, I will be stealing the level 10 parts off of his and swapping them over. I need to break the entire thing down to learn it and rebuild anyway. I love how it feels in my hands, think I am going to really enjoy using this. And I love the look of yours, amazing setup

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              • Walking Stick
                Inline Mechs

                • Jan 2007
                • 681

                #8
                Regardless of the foregrip, it's a beautiful Micro! Thanks, just rebuilt my Ultra Nickel and now need to tune it. The trigger was the perfect finishing touch. Or maybe that'll be when I have the matching Armson barrel Freak-/Equation-bored.

                I seem to remember a thread about your pattern or PTP team anos in general with a response from Forest/Tracy on here or MCB. Alas, my Google and forum search skills failed me. Tracy still posts on MCB and Forest on Facebook in the AGD/Mag or Old School Paintball threads. Hell, shoot'em an email with pics at ProTeamDirect or ArmsonUSA and I bet you'd get an answer with some insight. Just be sure to post the info up here too!
                Last edited by Walking Stick; 05-08-2018, 10:17 PM. Reason: Websites
                >>WTB<< Sydarm w/ constant air__WarpedMephisto half-c/f body__Ac!d c/f trigger__TASO humpback frame__an Oh-Mag

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                • Walker
                  O.F.P.P.A. Member
                  • Nov 2002
                  • 386

                  #9
                  The splash pattern does not appear to be PTP, but it does remind me of the old Smart Parts pattern/color scheme.

                  Nice Gen 2 Micro....


                  Walker
                  O.F.P.P.A. - OLD FARTS PAINTBALL PLAYERS ASSOCIATION
                  When you wrap-up the day with beer and Bengay.

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                  • Dawg047
                    Registered User

                    • Oct 2003
                    • 821

                    #10
                    Although these weren't typical PTP anodizing patterns, I still believe this pattern was done by PK Selective for Team Strange. I have seen a couple over the years. The foregrip seems to be an afterthought. Neat little Gen 2. Its an early Gen 2 with the single screw in the powerfeed. I have had Gen 2s with both single and double screws. The 1st Gen Fixed Barrels had one screw so I would say this was shortly after the Gen 1 and probably before they started their standard patterns.

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                    • Nobody
                      Nobody's Perfect
                      • Oct 2001
                      • 3384

                      #11
                      All micro mags are strange

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                      • swe_crazy

                        • Dec 2011
                        • 412

                        #12
                        Looks like a Gen2 Micromag with John gross splash exept the foregrip.
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                        • junglepeanut
                          Registered User
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 24

                          #13
                          Great info from all thank you. I am doing some research as well and will report back anything I find. Really appreciate all the help with my new addiction

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                          • netsurferdude2
                            Registered User
                            • Oct 2004
                            • 28

                            #14
                            Originally posted by junglepeanut View Post
                            Great info from all thank you. I am doing some research as well and will report back anything I find. Really appreciate all the help with my new addiction
                            I haven't been over here on AO in awhile.

                            From the info I gathered this is a Team Strange anno. I have been collecting this anno for a few years now but have sold most of it off.

                            I reached out to Tracy/Forest at PTP. They had this anno done by PK Selective for Team Strange. Their colors on the splash were red, black, SILVER.
                            Eclipse had a very similar anno in red, black, gold. The Smart Parts anno is Crazy Black Splash which had a black base with red and silver/white.



                            The cocker on the top is an ANS pre-GEN X series that was annoed by PK.
                            At the bottom there is a Gen 3/4 micro mag with double trigger, right feed (Not PF, single screw), Detent is housed in the body
                            The next up is a Gen 2 with a plastic detent, single trigger, PF single screw


                            More (crappy) Pics:









                            I wish I didnt sell this one.




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                            Last edited by Bunny; 05-23-2018, 06:45 PM. Reason: Added pictures to AO Database

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                            • bowcycle
                              Registered User

                              • Apr 2012
                              • 733

                              #15
                              that splash sydarm is HOT

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