Mag use in 2019's big mech Events

[the123]

No battery, 1 shot per pull + no bouncing double shots if you gently pull on the trigger when the ref (or event organizer) checks it, i'd say you are legal. I think some people have a preconceived notion that all RT's will go into 'runaway' on demand. When that simply isn't the case. That's a malfunction.

[Konigballer]

this reads like they know nothing about the factory function of an RT style valve and are only going off of what they have seen/heard from modified valves.

get with Sandman and have him talk to the people running the event.

The ghostly spectre of the RT Classic still looms large after 20+ years...

I shoot both every time I play. However, I'm actually of the same mind as JKR on the Classic Valve being superior, except for weight, over the RT/X Valve for modern tourney and recball play. It's simpler and less finicky (at least in my experience), has no trigger bounce to scare event organizers and refs, and with a preset tank is often shows more velocity consistency over the chrony. The 10.5 bps cap is almost universal at this point, so the RT/Valve's faster recharge rate really doesn't mean anything except for maybe scenario games were the rules are lax, or backyard fun. It's like saying "My Formula 1 car is faster/better than your Nascar stock car." Well, sure it is, except you aren't allowed to race in NASCAR with it so it's meaningless. I know it won't happen, but a aluminum Classic valve would be awesome!

Just yesterday I got a compliment from a regular at my home field after I gogged him in a couple games, and his hopper in another, with my plane-jane Classic valve mag. He was really amazed how accurate it was shooting. I was using crap field paint overbored with a old 10in Perfect Bore barrel, and somehow that thing was just ball on ball all day. It was averaging +-3 to 4 fps over the chrono, because "Quality Always Shoots Straight"!

[Walking Stick]

Wow, someone needs to update those MSPA organizers about the 1996 Automag RT and set them straight. They were probably Autococker fanbois back in the day and never bothered to educate themselves.

[Nobody]

It's more of the spectre of uninformed versus actual knowledge of the gun/setup. Most are more familiar with Tippmann RTs, about adding in a part to make the trigger rod return.

Raiderpb: 1st, RTs are referred to the classic automag RT, not specifically the ReTro valve or the factory offering of RT ULE, which is a basic Xvalve in a RT length rail. 2nd, stock, 650-800psi, the stock on/off will not bounce but will retain a nice snappy trigger. 3rd, the double trigger just allows you to sweetspot the trigger so it can go RT. So if anything, take your gun how you want it, expect them to question it, and expect to use something else if they flat out ban it. Sure, you can put a stock on/off(.750" on/off pin), a cf frame and dare people to get it to go reactive, but i really doubt that will happen.