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  • Butterfingers
    PhD in Automagology
    • Jan 2001
    • 2263

    #1

    Consistency Survey. And Problems! AHHH!

    Those of you that have e-mags I would like to know what kind of consistency you are getting.

    My consistency was horrible today on my e-mag I don't know what went wrong? +/- 20 fps on average this is unacceptable.

    I took the valve apart cleaned out all the internals with alcohol relubed the valve with KC trouble free. Heres what I did:

    Replaced the reg pin assy.

    Replaced both of the reg seat o-rings.

    Inspected and relubed the reg piston o-ring.

    Replaced the valve body o-ring.

    Still the same horrible consistency.

    I am using a superbolt if that makes any diffrence.


    I used the same paint and barrel on my gutted classic mag w/palmers sideline ON CO2!!! And maintained within +/- 5 I am officailly baffled!?!?!

    Any clues?
    Did you hear about the new european weapons contracts? France is going to make the wooden sticks Spain making the little white flags
  • Gunga
    Former AGD Factory Tech
    • May 2001
    • 1497

    #2
    Hmmmm...maybe your reg spring pack is worn out?

    If you take out your reg nut and put in the spring pack, the larger spring should extend above the lip of the reg nut. If it's level with the lip of the reg nut, then it's worn out.

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    • LaW
      Why play?
      • Oct 2000
      • 3124

      #3
      I only chrono my emag on emode via firing a decent 5-10 shot string then quickly chronoing 3 shots

      The past two days i've managed to do +-1 +-0 whatever it was dead on... for example on saturday i had 276 276 276 277 276 275 then today i had to start out with 285 285 285 and then when i went down i had 266 265 264 261 so whatever my emag is really consistent. I never use manual so i just don't chrono on manual... i'll short stroke anyway hehe i always manage to screw it up....
      Taking a long needed leave of the sport to finish school and tour the country

      b2k3w/pds, vaporized, vapor valve, aka sidewinder, chaos chip, palmer rock lpr, CP barrels, 68/45 hyperflow

      B2k3 w/pds and bunch of upgrades for sale

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      • Butterfingers
        PhD in Automagology
        • Jan 2001
        • 2263

        #4
        Just checked the spring pack, it extends maybe 1-2mm above the reg nut.

        While I was in there I also threw copious amounts of grease on the spring pack and replaced the reg piston o-ring.

        And in case some of you are wondering. There is NO pre- firing. (IE) leaking of air before firing. In manual mode there is no leaking at any point in the trigger stroke.

        Any other suggestions?
        Did you hear about the new european weapons contracts? France is going to make the wooden sticks Spain making the little white flags

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        • Gunga
          Former AGD Factory Tech
          • May 2001
          • 1497

          #5
          Try pulling the trigger back slowly in manual mode. Does the gun hiss a bit before firing?

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          • Butterfingers
            PhD in Automagology
            • Jan 2001
            • 2263

            #6
            I forgot to mention...

            Tell me what barrel, paint, and air system you are using.
            Did you hear about the new european weapons contracts? France is going to make the wooden sticks Spain making the little white flags

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            • Butterfingers
              PhD in Automagology
              • Jan 2001
              • 2263

              #7
              Originally posted by Gunga
              Try pulling the trigger back slowly in manual mode. Does the gun hiss a bit before firing?
              Read previous post I probably edited at the same time you posted.
              Did you hear about the new european weapons contracts? France is going to make the wooden sticks Spain making the little white flags

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              • LaW
                Why play?
                • Oct 2000
                • 3124

                #8
                I was using freak with proper insert and also superbolt with warp .. blah blah flatline tank
                Taking a long needed leave of the sport to finish school and tour the country

                b2k3w/pds, vaporized, vapor valve, aka sidewinder, chaos chip, palmer rock lpr, CP barrels, 68/45 hyperflow

                B2k3 w/pds and bunch of upgrades for sale

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                • jurassic
                  RenegadeEmag
                  • Nov 2001
                  • 141

                  #9
                  Maybe it is not the Emag. Could it be the tank reg acting up?

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                  • Butterfingers
                    PhD in Automagology
                    • Jan 2001
                    • 2263

                    #10
                    I don't know I doubt it though. The tank is relatively new. Im gonna have to pick up an output guage and make measurements.

                    If it is in fact the tank I will be VERY PO'ed that would mean this is my second nitro duck tank that has crapped out on me. I sent my SS4500 in to nitroduck 2 MONTHS ago for a creeping problem and I havent got it back yet. If this microreg gives me the same problem im gonna take 2000 mile trip over there and start bustin some heads!

                    That reminds me its time for my regularly scheduled call so I can hear more excuses on why I havent got my tank back yet.

                    GRRR!!!
                    Last edited by Butterfingers; 03-24-2002, 07:12 PM.
                    Did you hear about the new european weapons contracts? France is going to make the wooden sticks Spain making the little white flags

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                    • jurassic
                      RenegadeEmag
                      • Nov 2001
                      • 141

                      #11
                      Do you have access to another tank? Maybe call up a friend and check it out. It would at least rule that possibility out.

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                      • ah137
                        Registered User
                        • Nov 2000
                        • 569

                        #12
                        try putting you long nose SS back in, I have heard people having consistiany problems with the superbolt

                        Later Hills
                        NVE-mag
                        Certified Airgun Tech.


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                        • Butterfingers
                          PhD in Automagology
                          • Jan 2001
                          • 2263

                          #13
                          Im gonna have to do more evaluation cause im out of air! I tried it with the SS bolt 253 252 254 then 273 242 262. Same result I got excited at first. Perhaps the fluctuations were becuse the tank was really low. Need more air before further evaluation.
                          Did you hear about the new european weapons contracts? France is going to make the wooden sticks Spain making the little white flags

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                          • FordPrefect
                            Back to school :(:(:(
                            • Mar 2002
                            • 1053

                            #14
                            You said that you replaced the reg seat orings, did you replace the reg seat? That might be it, but I don't have a PhD in Automagology(IE, wild guess).
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                            • toymyster
                              Team OSIRIS
                              • Dec 2000
                              • 1277

                              #15
                              The only thing I can think of is your tank!!! Mine chronoed and 273, 273, 271 today!!! And it's usualy right about that!!! Specialy since you've had problems with the tank before!!!
                              E-Mag's on a diet
                              Stay tuned for Pics!!!
                              Centerflag 201 series 68/45

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