New Proto Gun Body Need Your Design Help!!!

**Richter** · 03-26-2002, 10:18 PM

how do you squeeie? and an idea

I think most people use straight shots nowadays but would still like to use automag barrels on my marker. That is one of the benfits of using a mag. You might want to consider a breech such as in an angel. i don't know how many agnel users though use the breech; like i said most people use straight squeegies.

Personaly i would not buy one espeically if they were close to 200 dollars. (just guessing on retail) I would probably buy a hop-up body for galatic before this body espeically if i want one that takes cocker barrels.

On a side note a thing that would be cool is if you could move you feed port during play. Such as if you want to come out the right side of your bunker you can move your feed port to the left and vise-versa. It would be kinda like the old viewloader cradles for bottle movement during play only with the feed port. This is taking the extreme body the extra step from interchangeable breeches for game of play to insantant changabilty during play. If you make one i'll buy this.

**Panzerr** · 03-26-2002, 10:20 PM

I don't really like it. it looks like it wants to look like an angel (if that makes any sense). I would love to see a body that will retro fit on my existing mag, though.

I forgot a suggestion

If you could make it look similar to the extreme, that would be groovy. I don't particularily care for the new body rail design, but I think a new design is definitly in order.

**Nitroduck** · 03-26-2002, 10:21 PM

MMMMM. I must say its nice.

Heres some ideas for ya Tom.

Thread the feedtube with Angel threading...That way people can upgrade that part. Gotta leave atleast one part for aftermarket places, right?

Cocker thread gun, I hate to say it, but that has to go!

Make sure the gun comes in all sorts of fun ano colors.

Do something similar to a "ripper" milling job...It'd look very cool.

I think this could really offer people more.

If AGD could start offering a Mag with Superbolt, Intelliframe, that new body with a matching feedtube, and DYE sticks for $450ish area, I think you'd have it made in the shade drinking lemonade (and shooting out all the competition too).......Or for deadlier results, price it directly against Verticle Feed Cockers ($380area). And make a RTP Version in the $600 area.

Just remember Tom, some people fear changes, I dont so go with this great design.

As for milling....I think it looks good. But I wouldnt stop with just one milling style. I'd have one just for RTPs, one for Minis, one for Norms, ect. Then make a new style each year.

**Nitroduck** · 03-26-2002, 10:26 PM

Hmm. Heres something noteworty.

I went to the most unfriendliest Mag place on the internet (the AOL paintball chatroom) and showed the design to everyone. Suprisingly, they loved the looks of it.

A few of the comments were like

"Thats Baaaaad!"

"I wish my old Mag looked like that!"

Then people started continously posting links upto the picture to share with everyone.

**Miscue** · 03-26-2002, 10:35 PM

**MajorDamage** · 03-26-2002, 10:36 PM

I think it's pretty neat looking. Weird, but neat looking!

ENDO!

**FooTemps** · 03-26-2002, 10:38 PM

Hmmm... I liked what Q posted up. It's just that same body without the milling. It looks a lot better...

**Kaiser Bob** · 03-26-2002, 10:43 PM

Now that ive seen it without the milling, I think it looks pretty darn good. So i guess my suggestion would be a different milling pattern. Other than that its great!

**vf-xx** · 03-26-2002, 10:45 PM

I like Q's better. it leaves the body blank for easy custom milling, yet looks smooth. Personally I think that you should either keep with the twist lock barrel system or move all your designs to cocker threads.

I've invested much in Mag barrels and i'm not looking forward to buying a new set of barrels. However as the move with extreems and sfl's are going to cocker barrels maybe it's a logical step. It just seems that you need to pick one design standard and go with it.

**RaV3n_Pa1ntba||** · 03-26-2002, 11:02 PM

Listen up :

Miscues IS PERFECT:

1. Needs some tear drop milling on sides
2. The back peice needs to be milled more to forfill the concave of the RT valve.
3. Put on a nice milled low rise
4. Blade frame
5. Include metallic colors: red, blue, green, gold, silver,
6. Include matching colored dye stickies with it
7. Super bolt
8. Matching Ultralight Boomer

= Extreem Mag :)

**MajorDamage** · 03-26-2002, 11:03 PM

Originally posted by AGD
It does take cocker barrel.

This body will go on all our markers except the Xtreme and is meant to retrofit to existing markers.

So you are making the twist lock barrels obsolite!? Whats up with that? The twistlock rules

!

ENDO!

**Clare** · 03-26-2002, 11:05 PM

miscue: woah! sign me up for one of those purple mags!!

I like it, but like a lot of people said, the milling should be different...a lot more flowing lines would be great. Could it have interchangeable verticle and side feed adaptors?

**AGD** · 03-26-2002, 11:07 PM

THANK YOU MISCUE!! Thats the type of feedback I was looking for!

AGD

**Xzion** · 03-26-2002, 11:16 PM

Hrm, well, I think it looked alright, the first notion I got when I saw it was it sort of looked like something from the 'Alien' movies, either that or something from the mind of HR Gieger (whom did the art for 'Alien') I really dislike the 'triangle' and 'squared' look I think its primarily the taper at the back, which Miscue removed in his designs, and making the whole design much sleeker in my opinion.

As for the body rail, I think it should be made to either 'merge' with the body so it doesnt look like a 'body and rail' but comes together to visually form one piece, either that or have the body and rail one piece, though having them seperate would save having the RT sears and such, perhaps have a segmented 'body and rail' for standard mags andwhatnot and have the one piece 'RT' joined body and rail.

I personally like having the valve concealed like the xtremes, but thats just my prefrence, the only thing Id like is maybe a special version with an excessive amount of material for those who want to custom mill their bodies, this, should literally be virtually a square block with the bottom predone so itwould fit properly. Also, the removeable breech is an excellent idea, and should be more widely adapted to the line of markers, its one of those ingenuious things people expect from AGD.

As for the cocker threading, from what I understand, the cocker threaded barrels in the industry are not usually -exactly- the same, therefore causing some barrels to not -quite- fit properly, for example ive heard that cocker freak barrels don't really fit properly on extreme e-mags due to these discrepencies. As far as I know, I may be right or wrong about this, but should it be true, perhaps a threading system thats more closely the same from producer to producer, perhaps, as suggested, angel threads or something of the like. Or perhaps sticking to the twistlock barrels, which I honestly am quite fond of.

Well, thats my two cents on it for now, hope it at least makes a little logic :)

**Maghappy** · 03-26-2002, 11:20 PM

i like miscues idea.... make it have a lowrise and interchangeable rises! one of the things AGD LACKS! i want to change my feed tube from high to low depending on game or where im playing on field, also miscues design is nice. give it some flowing milling horrisontally rather then vertically cuz it will look smoother and sleeeker.... it will just flow better rather then horizontal. id take off of miscues great ideas and make them even better

1) interchangeable/removable feed tube

2) milling options (vert and horizontal)

3) nice annoe :)

my 2 cents

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