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  • Nobody
    Nobody's Perfect
    • Oct 2001
    • 3384

    #31
    Originally posted by Tunaman
    If the government would stop waste and fraud with the money it already receives from us then maybe we all would be paying about 1/2 of what we pay now. I have no sympathy for this government which is growing larger and more abusive every day. You voted for it...I did not. I think we have something like 9000 government agencies now. They are largest employer in the US. That needs to change. That is not sitting well with me.
    Yes, so let us go collect taxes on some IDK, fraudulent wannabe billionaire that should be paying more than he is and remove the grift from his practices.

    You see dear Tuna, when you have things, you need to regulate them, so they run correctly and you have people there to do those agencies. So, you have to have people there do said jobs, thus there work helps the economy, and they pay taxes on their income; it is the corcle of life. So when you have questions, or need enforcement, you have that ability to serve the people.

    Gutting the government means that you are stripping any meaning, any need and any necessity of that, when the poopy hits the fan, there is something there to help, not be a meme for why government is bad.

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    • dstud2000
      Demon Slayer

      • Aug 2007
      • 491

      #32
      Originally posted by Nobody
      Yes, so let us go collect taxes on some IDK, fraudulent wannabe billionaire that should be paying more than he is and remove the grift from his practices.

      You see dear Tuna, when you have things, you need to regulate them, so they run correctly and you have people there to do those agencies. So, you have to have people there do said jobs, thus there work helps the economy, and they pay taxes on their income; it is the corcle of life. So when you have questions, or need enforcement, you have that ability to serve the people.

      Gutting the government means that you are stripping any meaning, any need and any necessity of that, when the poopy hits the fan, there is something there to help, not be a meme for why government is bad.

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      • maniacmechanic
        PrestonCoPaintball
        • Aug 2006
        • 3453

        #33
        Originally posted by tunaman
        if the government would stop waste and fraud with the money it already receives from us then maybe we all would be paying about 1/2 of what we pay now. I have no sympathy for this government which is growing larger and more abusive every day. You voted for it...i did not. I think we have something like 9000 government agencies now. They are largest employer in the us. That needs to change. That is not sitting well with me.
        yep

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        • Nobody
          Nobody's Perfect
          • Oct 2001
          • 3384

          #34
          Originally posted by dstud2000
          Nobody, this is theft plain and simple. It’s the same as the mafia saying you need to pay them for protection from the mafia or you business is going to get busted up, just with the government it is called taxation and not solicitation as it would be with anyone else.

          Actually, no. It is called "terms & service". To use ebay, you must adhere to their rules and if they wish to include taxation, so be it. As stated before, it was there before, just never enforced much. So if you don't want to pay it, don't use the service. That is your right.

          This has nothing to do with the mafia, as the government isn't profiting off you, it uses that money to provide for it's citizens.

          While no one likes to pay taxes, too kany forget what those taxes provide, like paying for police, fire and other emergency personnel, the roads you travel on, the military, etc and so forth. Only criminals don't pay their taxes.
          Last edited by Nobody; 02-20-2022, 01:12 AM.

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          • RossT
            Registered User
            • Sep 2009
            • 82

            #35
            Originally posted by Nobody
            Actually, no. It is called "terms & service". To use ebay, you must adhere to their rules and if they wish to include taxation, so be it. As stated before, it was there before, just never enforced much. So if you don't want to pay it, don't use the service. That is your right.

            This has nothing to do with the mafia, as the government isn't profiting off you, it uses that money to provide for it's citizens.

            While no one likes to pay taxes, too kany forget what those taxes provide, like paying for police, fire and other emergency personnel, the roads you travel on, the military, etc and so forth. Only criminals don't pay their taxes.
            I don't even think it necessary to extend the discussion to those other services provided by taxation.

            Selling on eBay requires a functional internet, a postal service, roads [DOT], bridges, FAA, and airports. I would also list the banking system, Treasury, and capital markets [SEC], but I doubt anyone opposed to paying tax would agree that those are necessary. They would probably also agree that crypto can replace the dollar and that crypto gains should not be taxable even if converted back into USD.

            eBay reporting requirements are still much less burdensome than being an independent contractor or W-2 employee, and once again, it does not increase anyone's tax burden.

            I'll be teaching a zoom class next week for anyone that wants to learn how to assign inventory cost to the parts after you buy a whole gun and part it out.

            And to really poke the bear, we will be doing a survey to see how many people with side businesses are paying inventory tax.

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            • dstud2000
              Demon Slayer

              • Aug 2007
              • 491

              #36
              Originally posted by Nobody
              Actually, no. It is called "terms & service". To use ebay, you must adhere to their rules and if they wish to include taxation, so be it. As stated before, it was there before, just never enforced much. So if you don't want to pay it, don't use the service. That is your right.

              This has nothing to do with the mafia, as the government isn't profiting off you, it uses that money to provide for it's citizens.

              While no one likes to pay taxes, too kany forget what those taxes provide, like paying for police, fire and other emergency personnel, the roads you travel on, the military, etc and so forth. Only criminals don't pay their taxes.

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              • Nobody
                Nobody's Perfect
                • Oct 2001
                • 3384

                #37
                Originally posted by dstud2000
                As far as eBay goes I was not referring to eBay but the reporting rule in general. Secondly as far as paying taxes, yes never said we shouldn’t pay taxes, a certain amount to cover defense, borders, and the common needs of the citizenry. Unfortunately this HAS been abused, so yes those in and connected to government HAVE been profiting off my taxes. And actually yes taxation is the same as solicitation except taxation is supposed to be kept reasonable and held to account which it is not. So yes that makes it no different than a legalization of mafia like tactics. You pay or we take it away. Don’t forget a big chunk of the reason for our war of independence was over taxation without representation. Many, many folks are feeling as if they are not being adequately represented in government and if history has proven anything when you mess with peoples pocket books too much there is bound to be a backlash.


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                Yup, i kinda knew someone would go there, "no taxation, without representation ". Yet, they know the words, use the words but fail to bring together the 2 points. 1, was the fact that the English Government wanted to pass taxes and dictate to the colonies rules to live by but not allow the colonies the chance to adjust laws for the circumstances of being across the Atlantic. And 2, we, the former colonies did not oppose taxes, merely wanted those taxes to more readily effect the colonies, i.e. if you tax us, then let us see the those taxes at work.

                So, in reality, your use of the saying is great for a meme but fails under scrutiny of history and fact. So no, again your idea of anything being "just like" or "no different" is wrong, plain and simple. The laws state that this is legal. Laws are use against those that act in illegal manners and assign recompense(jail, execution, money). While you can sue the government, when they break the laws, just saying so does nothing. If you don't like the people breaking the laws they make, allow corruption & grift and similar; then vote them out of office. Make change and don't support those that continue going against your ideals of how the government is run/running.

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                • rawbutter
                  Registered User
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 1463

                  #38
                  Originally posted by dstud2000
                  Many, many folks are feeling as if they are not being adequately represented in government...
                  I know it feels that way sometimes, but it's not true.

                  When Trump was elected, I didn't feel like I was being represented in the US government. But the fact of the matter was yes, most of my values and ideas were still there. They were represented by people like Romney and Kaine and literally hundreds of other senators and congressmen and various other staffers. Were my values and beliefs "winning" at that time? No. But that doesn't mean they weren't represented.

                  Representation goes both ways, after all. I'm represented in government, but then again other people who disagree with me are also represented in government. That means that nobody is truly happy with the outcome all the time. That's just the way it is. Sometimes we compromise. Sometimes my side wins. Sometimes your side wins. That's democracy.

                  And yes, I agree that there is corruption in government. Many of our tax dollars are wasted or even stolen. But I don't think the answer to that corruption is to get rid of the government, or even specific government agencies. The answer is to replace the people who are corrupt and to pass laws that make it harder for people in power to abuse the system.
                  Last edited by rawbutter; 02-21-2022, 09:22 AM.

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                  • Tunaman
                    Specialized AGD Tech

                    • Dec 2000
                    • 8643

                    #39
                    Originally posted by rawbutter
                    I know it feels that way sometimes, but it's not true.

                    When Trump was elected, I didn't feel like I was being represented in the US government. But the fact of the matter was yes, most of my values and ideas were still there. They were represented by people like Romney and Kaine and literally hundreds of other senators and congressmen and various other staffers. Were my values and beliefs "winning" at that time? No. But that doesn't mean they weren't represented.

                    Representation goes both ways, after all. I'm represented in government, but then again other people who disagree with me are also represented in government. That means that nobody is truly happy with the outcome all the time. That's just the way it is. Sometimes we compromise. Sometimes my side wins. Sometimes your side wins. That's democracy.

                    And yes, I agree that there is corruption in government. Many of our tax dollars are wasted or even stolen. But I don't think the answer to that corruption is to get rid of the government, or even specific government agencies. The answer is to replace the people who are corrupt and to pass laws that make it harder for people in power to abuse the system.
                    I feel the same way about Biden. He let 2 million illegal aliens into this country that we are paying for. Maybe you should work a few more hours for free to help pay for them. I will not.
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                    • BigEvil
                      www.BigEvilOnline.com

                      • Feb 2005
                      • 9333

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Tunaman
                      I feel the same way about Biden. He let 2 million illegal aliens into this country that we are paying for. Maybe you should work a few more hours for free to help pay for them. I will not.
                      The lefty idiots are out in force again. I guess the economy and every other aspect of the country is blossoming under this administration..

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                      • Nobody
                        Nobody's Perfect
                        • Oct 2001
                        • 3384

                        #41
                        Originally posted by BigEvil
                        The lefty idiots are out in force again. I guess the economy and every other aspect of the country is blossoming under this administration..
                        And by that, you mean that more people are getting jobs, the economy is growing, infrastructure is being addressed, then yes. It is good to see a president actually doing something for the country instead of himself and his lackeys.

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                        • going_home
                          Hebrews 13:8

                          • Dec 2004
                          • 8343

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Nobody
                          And by that, you mean that more people are getting jobs, the economy is growing, infrastructure is being addressed, then yes. It is good to see a president actually doing something for the country instead of himself and his lackeys.
                          LOL

                          Now that was hilarious.

                          Rose colored glasses for sure.


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                          • dstud2000
                            Demon Slayer

                            • Aug 2007
                            • 491

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Nobody
                            Yup, i kinda knew someone would go there, "no taxation, without representation ". Yet, they know the words, use the words but fail to bring together the 2 points. 1, was the fact that the English Government wanted to pass taxes and dictate to the colonies rules to live by but not allow the colonies the chance to adjust laws for the circumstances of being across the Atlantic. And 2, we, the former colonies did not oppose taxes, merely wanted those taxes to more readily effect the colonies, i.e. if you tax us, then let us see the those taxes at work.

                            So, in reality, your use of the saying is great for a meme but fails under scrutiny of history and fact. So no, again your idea of anything being "just like" or "no different" is wrong, plain and simple. The laws state that this is legal. Laws are use against those that act in illegal manners and assign recompense(jail, execution, money). While you can sue the government, when they break the laws, just saying so does nothing. If you don't like the people breaking the laws they make, allow corruption & grift and similar; then vote them out of office. Make change and don't support those that continue going against your ideals of how the government is run/running.

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                            • dstud2000
                              Demon Slayer

                              • Aug 2007
                              • 491

                              #44
                              Ebay totally sucks. Be careful

                              Originally posted by rawbutter
                              I know it feels that way sometimes, but it's not true.

                              When Trump was elected, I didn't feel like I was being represented in the US government. But the fact of the matter was yes, most of my values and ideas were still there. They were represented by people like Romney and Kaine and literally hundreds of other senators and congressmen and various other staffers. Were my values and beliefs "winning" at that time? No. But that doesn't mean they weren't represented.

                              Representation goes both ways, after all. I'm represented in government, but then again other people who disagree with me are also represented in government. That means that nobody is truly happy with the outcome all the time. That's just the way it is. Sometimes we compromise. Sometimes my side wins. Sometimes your side wins. That's democracy.

                              And yes, I agree that there is corruption in government. Many of our tax dollars are wasted or even stolen. But I don't think the answer to that corruption is to get rid of the government, or even specific government agencies. The answer is to replace the people who are corrupt and to pass laws that make it harder for people in power to abuse the system.

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                              • Tunaman
                                Specialized AGD Tech

                                • Dec 2000
                                • 8643

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Nobody
                                And by that, you mean that more people are getting jobs, the economy is growing, infrastructure is being addressed, then yes. It is good to see a president actually doing something for the country instead of himself and his lackeys.
                                Who are you getting that info from now that Rachel Madcow is off the air?
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