GoodBye

[ThePatriot]

I am reluctant to inform to you that I am no longer going to be posting here, maybe once a week or month. Why? I am sure is the question of the day, well let me explain to you why. Yesterday 2 of my posts were closed wondering if anyone thought a psychic were fake or real, the fact AO has become this sickens me. I have been on AO less and less but now this does it. AO was never ever like this in the past, and its no longer a forum of paintball, its a forum of cencorship. Read Fahrenheit 451, it displays what cencorship does to society. I want the old AO back, this crap never happened. I hope i am not the only one who notices this, good bye AO.

[SlipknotX556]

Bye Sean.

[xmetal2001]

I haven't been here nearly as long as some of you, but even i have noticed a change. I have nothing else to do though, so i'm still gonna just hang around.

Bye

[wyn1370]

you have to realize how much this board has grown. With increased trafic, enforcement has had to increase. I have no problem with how things have been handled. You really need to take things less seriously.

[shartley]

ThePatriot

[DryIce]

something happened to me recently too
army banned me in IRC which he comes on liek once a week, if that.
He banned me because of a script i have that replies to the word "train" where it causes me to say Chuga chuga chuga choo choo.
Now i bring this up because he didnt even take the time to EXPLAIN THIS TO ME. i even pm'd him and you know what? no response.
Thanks army.
I was asleep when this happened and had NO control over it. I took it out of my script, but the fact that you just kick banned me made no sense. As far as i can see there are no such rules for IRC scripts so if you are going to enforce rules that dont exist, before even asking the person to turn them off, i suggest you think twice or maybe even three times.
sorry for the rant but i think bans without explination, even when an explination is asked for are infact very unjust.
I have been a member of this board for a LONG time, i was a member of the original board as well.
thanks for the time
sorry for the rant.

[shartley]

DryIce
I thought I saw a rule about that once, so did some quick looking... here you go:
Those are directly from the Chat Rules page... I highlighted the one that even by your own post above, you broke.... by both it being annoying (or so Army though) and by not being in control of the script.

I hope that helps answer your question. I do agree though, that Army should have at least returned your attempts to contact him.... but that is a different issue.

[DryIce]

i said it one time
ONE TIME
i checked the logs
i dont see that as annoying, and if you read it, it says BANNED for repeat offenses not one time, im still banned, but i changed my ip so im back in, but infact army did not do his job and maybe he needs a checkup on the rules as well as me
also...... whatever
oh well
im in there now

[Bluntman]

Don't want to sound too hostile, but I think the closing of a thread and the burning of all books is kinda stretching it on the censorship idea.

[shartley]

I was speeding ONE time! I checked my speedometer and I only was speeding once.

Just messing with you.

Yes, I saw you were back. Good to see.

(((BTW... I was not agreeing with any rules or actions taken, or NOT agreeing either. But your post made it look like NO rules were posted about this type of thing, and clearly they are. And even by your own post, by not being in control of the script (you stated you were asleep) you broke a rule. You may not like it being enforced, but Army did not enforce a rule that did not exist. Let's be fair about this.)))

[Jonno06]

hm.....I do somewhat side with The Patriot on this matter.It was obvioulsy In the friendly Forum and was not breaking any rules.He was mearly asking for AO's opinion on someone.If it would have turned into a flame,I am positive he would have it deleted.I trust in The Patriots reasoning skills,and could have managed his own thread if it got out of control.Censorship is just another way the government keeps a leash on us.

[Hasty8]

If DryIce' recollection is in fact accurate then he did not deserve the ban Shartley, as your post proves.

Doing it once will result in being kicked. Multiple offenses will result in a ban. If DryIce got banned after just one offense (and Chugga-Chugga-Choo-Choo hardly seems that offensive. At least it wasn't a string of expletives) then he should of just received a kick or a warning.

That being said I think the censorship thing has gotten a bit to far out of hand myself. I do understand that this is a private site run by a private company and therefore is due to the rules and regulations of that company. Even beyond that, the rules for posting on this board travel very similar roads as the irst Amendment.

Let me be clear here folks. he First Amendment does not allow free and "wild speech". It merely afford the populations of this contry the legal protection to voice their opinion, provided those opinions are not said without factual basis.

In fact, the only place in the United States where the First Amendment is not enforceable is on the floor of the Congress (if my memory serves). Look back to the Age of Macarthurism when Senator Macsrthur would stand on the floor of Congress (or was it the Senate?) and would read off a list of people he thought to be Communists. As far as my memory goes there was no legal recourse against him doing this even though it destroyed the lives of countless thousands of American citizens.

Now, the rules here state no inflammatory comments and I agree with that. I do, however, disagree with the ban on discussions on religion, politcis and whatever the thrid taboo subject is.

I am a firm believer that the only way to educate people is by the free and unfettered of speech. Perhaps it would be best to limit discussions of this nature to the Friendly Forum and any thread of this variety must be properly identified in the title.

I remember that I had a post up a few weeks ago the cphillip allowed me to keep up there because it had to potential to hit on some sensitive subjects. He warned me long in advance that he was going to keep an eye on it and he did. The thread never took off so I deleted it.

Thank you to cphillip.

However, this is not what Tom had in mind when he started these boards. At least I don't think he did. I think he just wanted a board that would be centered around paintball.

Unfortunately, that topic dries up pretty quickly. For proof of that hypothesis, do a serch for best barrel or paint-to-barrel lengths and see just how many results you get.

Nuff said there.

Back to the topic of DryIce being kicked from the chat. Take into mind that some of the moderators are a tad busier than others. Army, from what I can tell, is often being pulled in multiple directions just about 28 hours a day so you can expect his moderating to be a bit more quick then other moderators.

And as far as Patriots comparision of the censorship turning into the world of Farenheit I think that's a pretty huge stretch. There other boards that do allow religious discussion and although I am a cold-hearted atheist I do post, with great frequency, on many of them. In fact, my extreme dislike of organized religion promts me to learn as much about it as possible and to regularly engage in discussions about it.

The moral? If you want to discuss religion then find a board for it. If you want to discuss politics then find a board for it. If you want to discuss the societal benefits of hot fudge and vanilla ice cream on a warm brownie then go find a board for it.

And as for censorship, on the internet you have the ability to start you own message boards about anything you want. It's the absolute antithesis of censorship.

[Heisman]

ok good bye, oh and I really agree w/ him everyone should read Fahrenheit 451 its a great book

[cphilip]

Well I will not comment on another Mods decissions.

However Patriot I seem to remember it was you that took exception to my multiple ban for all the cursing a few weeks back? Was that not you? Pretty sure it was. And about the only one too. I think you have a little more trouble than most dealing with any authority. And following rules. You know a lot of this may stem from YOUR attitude as much if not more than anyone elses. IN the mean time I wouldn't go burning any bridges if I was you. You'll think it over and probably decide to see it the right way. Take a few days and think about it all OK?

[Shaft]

Take it easy. Don't let the door hit you in the arse on the way out.