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  • TylerDurden
    Space Monkey
    • Jun 2001
    • 264

    #16
    I don't have any experience, and don't know anything about them, but the Carter Buzzard looks neat. Just a thought.

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    • dave_p

      #17
      4th vote for the pgp

      i love mine, its heavy(solid brass)as heck and built to last, plus you can actually trick them out, ask punisher or doc nickel! polish em up, have em palmerized, no end to the fun. plus the pgp owners group is an awesome forum, easily as lucid and intelligent as this one, so you could have the distinction of belonging to two best of breed owners groups.
      the best part is to get your buddies to get one as well and you can put on the masks and run around popping eachother with 10 dollars worth of paint and air from wallmart on days you dont go to the field. a nice one on one with 20 balls and a co2 cartridge each can be a lot of fun.

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      • the JoKeR
        Slightly disturbed member
        • Dec 2001
        • 565

        #18
        The PGPs are a blast to use, and like the Tippmanns, built like tanks. You might also be able to find a nice older pump, like the PMI-1 or LB. All very solid guns. Something that also helped me cut paint costs was the PTExtreme set up with a 45 round hopper. The velocity is low, and accuracy doesn't exist, but it's a blast. If you want to cut the cost of even buying the gun and save money for paint, I've got a pair of Trracer pumps and would part with one. PM me if interested.
        the JoKeR

        Tragically hip and criminally insane.



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        • a_malfunction
          Damnit! It Malfunctioned!
          • Feb 2001
          • 1779

          #19
          I played my first game of paintball with an sl68-II... Those guns are just awesome..... I would say that they are more reliable than mags. You cant go wrong with one.
          -Gig 'Em Ags!

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          • OtterSC
            Lutraphobia!
            • Jan 2002
            • 16

            #20
            depends what you looking for and type of play. looking for stock class? then go with a PGP. are you looking for direct feed pump? then go with a Phantom.

            versitility wise, the Phantom is the way to go. technically, it is not stock class legal with the auto trigger. but you can play in modified stock class. you can get a breech for direct feed or stock class Mike (creator of the Phantom) is a real nice guy. he still repairs the original Phantoms som 13 years old or more. out of the box, no need for upgrades (hence, the lack of aftermarket parts available). you can get your favorite barrel in a Phantom thread.

            i was able to find some old Lapco parts and converted to LP. am able to run at 100psi right now with the help of a lightened hammer, old style bolt, new springs, and a larger power tube. so these markers are great little project markers that are very forgiving.

            like to also add as a side note that i have out ranged the flatlines with much better accuracy. 9" pie plate, 150ft, 9-shots out of 10. the best stock barrel that i have ever seen.

            Markers: 4 PGP's, Phantom, BE 1st Gen. Nightmare, 5 Spyders, EM1, K2, KP3
            Site: www.ottersccustoms.com
            "See that old guy with the cane? He's been playing since 1985!"

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            • Webmaster
              Former Moderator

              • Oct 2000
              • 1765

              #21
              Id recoommend a Phantom - they are light - very well made - the stock barrel is accurate - and they come in many cool colors.

              You can also run constant air on a phantom easily with direct feed - or run stock class and 12 grams. The autotrigger helps lay cover fire.

              the sniper 2 is nice - but no autotrigger and heavier. Course, you can upgrade it to a cocker some day...

              PGPs are ok - but its harder to run constant air on - and a pistol is harder to shoot accurately than something you can shoulder...

              course - there are others like the Hornet, trracer, and sl-68 - but IMHO the phantom is the best for the money.

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              • Fred
                AO Zealot
                • Feb 2002
                • 2624

                #22
                alrighty then...

                I'd recommend a lower end pump first, and then, if you like it a lot, go for a Phantom or Sniper.

                Phantoms are available in every format imaginable, as long as it's pump. :) colors, accesories, barrels, breeches, etc.

                Sterlings are cool too, but i don't think they have as many mods (no Stock class).

                Snipers can be converted to cockers.

                hornets/tracers/mavericks can be converted to semi with a kit... (cockerizing it, kits are hard to find).

                Try a few, see what you like best, that is what counts!
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                • the JoKeR
                  Slightly disturbed member
                  • Dec 2001
                  • 565

                  #23
                  Load SM5- PMd you.
                  the JoKeR

                  Tragically hip and criminally insane.



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                  • SPOOKI
                    SPOOKI Wang
                    • Mar 2002
                    • 47

                    #24
                    Pump guns...

                    Out of personal experience I have found the phantom to be the optimal pump gun. Granted, they are a little pricy but you get an awesome marker. so if money isn't an issue, go for it. I have one myself and I'd recommend going for the stock class. The only downside is getting used to the ol' "rock & cock" method and laerning to chenge 12 grams around every 25-30 shots. but I'll tell you this, it'll definitely help you with you're accuracy since you don't have the volume on your side.
                    Also, I have recently looked into Palmers new stash of pump markers. You should check them out for yourself. They are really quite classy. I own a cocker also and have used Palmer pneumatics and have been extremely impressed by the performance, so I can only assume that he has placed the same quality in his pump/stock class markers.
                    I hope that I was able to help, if you need some more input, send me a PM and I'll get back with ya ASAP...

                    -Lance
                    "You were thinking about it weren't you??? I THOUGHT I smelled something burning..."

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                    • Muzikman
                      Everything AGD
                      • Dec 2000
                      • 6229

                      #25
                      Sterling STP
                      Palmer Houndstooth
                      Phantom
                      Sniper II
                      Any other Sheridanbased Pump
                      Most other Nelson based Pumps

                      Those are the order in which I like my pumps. This does not take into account some of the very rare stuff such as a Carter.

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                      • manike
                        INCEPTIONDESIGNS.COM

                        • Jan 2001
                        • 3820

                        #26
                        I have a PGP, a Phantom VSC, and a Sterling STP.

                        All are great and fun guns. I love having a laugh with the PGP and for stock it's great.

                        The Phantom is also a very good high quality gun but I do believe that the Sterling is the BEST pump gun available.

                        The newer ones are even better. Very high quality. Very solid and a dream to shoot and work on. They feel the most quality of all three in your hands and if you want the ultimate pump, I think that's it.

                        manike
                        Inception Designs - My new company where Innovation is the Inspiration

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                        • Restola
                          Certificated Cloud Buster
                          • May 2001
                          • 2230

                          #27
                          here is a pic of my new phantom (yeah im bragging :) ). also have a centerfeed body and 3.5oz tank, but no pic yet of that config.


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                          • manike
                            INCEPTIONDESIGNS.COM

                            • Jan 2001
                            • 3820

                            #28
                            Nice gun Restola :)
                            Inception Designs - My new company where Innovation is the Inspiration

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                            • giant1515
                              Registered User
                              • Dec 2001
                              • 91

                              #29
                              manike

                              where can Sterlings be found? I've looked around and only found some trashy looking used ones.
                              being tall is good, except when you're the last one on your team and stuck behind the smallest bunker on the field.

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                              • manike
                                INCEPTIONDESIGNS.COM

                                • Jan 2001
                                • 3820

                                #30
                                There is now someone importing them to the USA... I think it's Maxx paintball or something?

                                I know Bill Mills got a brand new one at World Cup last year. Very nice!

                                You could always e-mail them from the www.arrow-precision.com website and ask them who has the guns in the states.

                                For those that are interested I hear there are some updates to the Sov II coming also... should be tasty and I will let you all know them as I find out!

                                manike
                                Inception Designs - My new company where Innovation is the Inspiration

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